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        Wait, really? It says more about USA than about Korea. How does one become even worse than Korea? It is antiachivement.

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          In literally no instance is the USA worse than north Korea. Unless you count the lack of murder death camps and a supreme dictator for life as something to be better at

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    People here claiming it’s not the case are just wrong. I’ve been banned from multiple instances and had posts deleted by these bozos. Actually authoritarians lol

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      I’ve been banned from communities and had comments and posts deleted in lemmy.world with the mod notice being “commie”.

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    These “tankies” are conservative right-wing shitbag trolls trying to convince the normal people that supporting oppression and dictators is somehow “left-wing”. Do not fall for their conservative bullshit.

    Just like any other conservative, every word they utter is deception or manipulation. Tankies are conservative trolls through and through.

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      That’s a no true Scotsman argument.

      There are plenty of actual tankies here. In fact, the Lemmy software is created by tankies and one of the larger Lemmy instances is run by them.

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        From what I’ve seen, there’s a big divide amongst the tankies. There are those who are basically Stalin MAGA, base their political opinions on Soviet aesthetics and don’t consider much the practical implications of their actions. Some simply lash out against mainstream liberal ideology and others are just trolls.

        Ane the other camp is made of people who read a lot of communist philosophy and are absolutely convinced the only way to achieve an equal society is by forcing everyone into it. This has its own problems, but they at least have an internally coherent ideology.

        That’s not to say I agree with either camp. Their ideology promotes a vanguard party which can quickly spiral into “some are more equal than others”. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and all that. But I do understand where the second camp is coming from. I think the path to a better world lies in trade unions and people coming together to defend common interests.

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          When they are actively censoring and banning people who make critical comments about the PRC, the USSR, or even present day Russia, I don’t care where they come from.

          I was banned from lemmy.ml myself for saying something about the Tiananmen Square massacre.

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            You got banned for a month because you posted an off topic anti-China meme in the thread looking for moderators of the memes sub with the text “Why, so you can censor some more posts critical of China? The modlog of this sub is absolutely ridiculous:”

            The ban expired a month ago so I guess feel free to go back.

            E: after more carefully scrutinizing the images in the modlog, you posted a screenshot of people being banned or having posts removed for posting gore and debunked sinophobic stuff.

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              Debunked sinophobic stuff like what? In my experience, that category includes anything critical of China, including Tiananmen Square.

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                I think there were two links to the gore page people post and a couple of responses saying you couldn’t even talk about tiannamen square.

                The first is clear what it is, I’d call the second one sinophobic because it’s patently untrue and is basically an anti-china buzzword now. Idk why mods did what they did.

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                  Genuine question, is criticism of the Israeli government, even based on falsehoods or misunderstandings, antisemitism?

                  To say that reference to a historical event that the CCP doesn’t believe happened the way the west does is sinophobic is on the same level. At best you’d have people with unjustified animus towards the government of China but not its people. After all, is the claim that the people of China collectively slaughtered those student protesters demanding reasonable changes to a corrupt system or that the government did so?

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    What did Kim Jong Un do? Build a water park?

    American liberals don’t have a coherent criticism of imperialism, all they have are US State Department-mandated vibes.

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    Oooooh, this thread’ll let my blocklist feast for days as the Tankies come out to whatabbout

    Edit: Man yall are too kind! Thank you for helping me make Lemmy a more intelligent place! <3

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    I’d upvote the meme if it wasn’t also controversial to criticize all war criminals, including both those at the top and the bottom.

    Edit: For a source, see people in this thread rushing to argue and feel called out when someone criticizes “all forms of imperialism”, including the Western ones.

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      “Let’s criticise everything.”

      I mean there is a difference, and hearing “let’s criticise joe biden” after hearing about russia killing half a million people gets daunting in the long run. It feels like a new form of whataboutism.

      Sure we should criticise all bad things, but I don’t really feel we are not criticising the west, quite the opposite. China, NK, Iran (Russia starts to get some, but not enough IMO) not so much.

      What about Morocco? Mauretania, Kirgizistan or Libya? Or should we only have criticism for modern societies?

      I’m open for discussion of course.

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      And by “liberal” you mean anyone who dares criticise Daddy Putin and Supreme Leader Xi, amirite?

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    It’s why I went back to reddit. I check in here occasionally to check. I can handle the reddit hive if I limit where and how I participate. But the hardcore political ideologies sprinkled everywhere in lemmy ruin even a limited browsing experience for me.

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      This is the price you pay for less hive mindish environment. You won’t like every comment or post, you will hate some. That’s alright

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    Now, I don’t like violence. But even I can see that there’s a difference between violence waged for imperialism and violence waged against imperialism.

    And you can see the difference too. That’s why Obama and Biden always say that their wars are being waged “for freedom”. That’s why you accept the violence of historical revolutions like the American Revolution.

    The problem is, Obama and Biden are lying when they say their wars are for freedom. Their wars are for profit and control.

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        And USSR, China etc were different?

        List any war after WW2 that the USSR joined for profit. List any war that China joined in the past 40 years.

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          Invasions of Hungary and Czechoslovakia. Invasion of Afghanistan.

          China

          Occupation of Tibet is still ongoing.