Bro, whats with this 4 month necro with a response that has almost nothing to do with what I said?

Is that not what mugging usually is?

Hence why I said low tide and zoom out. Right now shit seems like its regressing, BUY WE ARE STILL AHEAD of where we used to be, so the TREND is still hopeful, even if the right now sucks.

tldr; in the immediate present/future things are looking worse, but the overall timeline/trend things are looking and have been getting better

For me its because if you zoom out, the world is a better place to live in now, than it was 1000 years ago. Progress moves in waves, and right now it definitely feels like a significant low tide, but over time the coastline keeps creeping forward.

• Humanity is the only meat eating animal that has significant percentage of its population willingly avoiding eating meat and instead finding ways to obtain essential nutrients without it (need to add that I am NOT one of those animals, I’m personally waiting for lab grown meat before I obstain from death based meat, if I ever do)

• Humanity by and large no longer needs to leave its sick and wounded to die because we invented technology and infrastructure to both heal, and take care of those we cant heal

• We’ve progressed to the point as a species where in order to bring more prosperity to our community, we no longer have to take from other communities, and that wasnt always the case (unfortunately this is only a recent achievement, and as such, not all of our population has adapted to this, hence our current problems)

Unless brewing them in a special way is required to bring out the flavour, it tastes just like regular coffee to me when I had it

Yeah, I know, I was just making a joke =P Thank you for the clarification though! My joke wasnt clear enough that it was a joje!

Old McDonald did WHAT NOW!?!

Here’s a summation from another dutch poster @ClamDrinker@lemmy.world a while back:

I’m sorry, but this is just really kind of disingenuous to start something like this next to a topic such as this. Your experience with one company or something is purely anecdotal and the controversy around Zwarte Piet is also very nuanced to this very day. The kind of nuance someone not from here will not get from a casual google search. For anyone that cares about actually understanding, here’s a rundown:

Many people attributed Zwarte Piet as a fun and good role model for kids, not some kind of caricature clown to laugh at. Literally almost everyone grew up knowing and having a fond enjoyment of Zwarte Piet, like a childhood imaginary friend that always showed up when you needed a smile the most. And that creates a strong desire to set that positivity forth by continuing the tradition. It takes really good reasons to destroy something most people attribute to be part of the greater good of their lives.

We try to understand racism, and strive to effectively reduce it rather than just mindlessly treat symptoms. Many people saw the existence of Zwarte Piet as a way to instill positive experiences to kids who might be isolated from having positive experiences with actual people of color. We know that in part racism comes about from not having enough (or too many bad) real world experiences with people of different skin colors. It is a type of fear of the unknown. As such, this still seems like solid reasoning. (Fun note, rats will also not help other stranger rats with a different fur color to escape even with no direct harm to themselves except when they have already lived alongside aside a rat with that fur color)

Even people of color were not completely on one side, but for the ones that it hurt, it hurt loudly. Black people in the Caribbean (Also part of the Netherlands) still use Zwarte Piet to this day, because they do not care - They do not see the racism in it. Unfortunately there seems to be a correlation between being affected by racism and seeing the racism in Zwarte Piet, as many of us learned as the conversation marched on. And racists definitely did wield Zwarte Piet to make their racism be known. In a world without racism, Zwarte Piet would not be controversial. And many people were not acutely aware of the racism some people of color faced.

The majority has wanted to get rid of it (since about 2018, actually), and most places have more accepted solutions in place now. But this does not mean that many people agree because we think Zwarte Piet is actually inherently racist. It’s because we’ve heard the concerns of people of color and weighed their burden to be more important to relieve than the perceived benefit of tradition and instilling a positive message on people that look different from yourself. It also didn’t help that the vast majority of people that still wanted to overrule those concerns were pretty obviously racist, which pushed even more people over the edge, because we don’t want to hold traditions in place that shield racists and bigots. Some countries could really learn from that.

I more mean I hate it because this level of incompatible thinking is unfortunately super common (As in I probably do it in different topics myself

LMAO That’s hilarious, it wasnt even mine I was mentioning xD

(Tbh though it’s probably more that the Tankies are butthurt that they cant share their brainrot with me anymore)

LMAO, they’re seriously saying someone with a vagina can be a man and not putting 2 and 2 together!?

… Fuck man, wait, that’s totally believable…

I hate this world…

Small price to pay tbh. Its not like asking cost me anything, and I definitely dont care enough to block less tankies over it.

Edit: Also I get my high like to dislike ratio, but yours I find weird, as its fair?

Can a non tankie provide/copy paste an answer to this? I cant see the following response chain because it’s filled with people I blocked

My understanding of two is its starting to pick up animal features while still looking mostly human, whereas one could affectively just be accessories added

Id say post strip scene puts her firmly at two. 1 mostly implies just the ears and tail being the change (the shit lemmy makes me say sometimes)

Yeah, dont. I just did and its rough. I mean I guess if you watch pimple popping videos you’ll be fine, but bleeeeggghhhhhh

Dude they even said that Zwarte Pete is being phased out because while Zwarte Pete themselves in the context of only the Netherlands wasnt very problematic, the fact that the world is more globalized and Americans who HAD been hurt by THEIR history of Blackface took precedence over an overall positive tradition for people of the Netherlands. Nuance exists, and American history is not WORLD history

Cool, union busting is unfortunately one of my own battle lines, so hopefully this means I wont have to avoid Starbucks for long! (Because yeah, I guess I am avoiding them now)

Ideologically thats nice, real world logistically, it was nice being able to easily track down a liquid snack on my normal commute to work, a timeslot which usually doesnt give much room for investigation and testing

and further, it being a chain meant if my commute ever changed or I wasnt in the area for whatever reason, I could still hit up another location easily and get the same treat

I mean, this person is either a troll or not fully connected to reality sooooo…