• SmithrunHills [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    49·
    2 months ago

    What are they even mad about? Bernie is one of them- a liberal Zionist. They can surely bond over their desire to justify bombing Palestinian children

    • Blakey [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      26·
      2 months ago

      They don’t want to justify bombing Palestinian children. Working to justify killing Palestinians concedes that it would even require justification in the first place and they do not believe that. By trying to justify bombing Palestinian children, Bernie is admitting that they could be considered human, which is a bridge too far for these guys. It’s all I can figure.

  • Johnny_Arson [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    46·
    2 months ago

    "Well I mean, they have nothing in terms of an argument or a coherent worldview or a useful praxis but what they do have is they are speaking on behalf of a hegemonic liberalism that’s going to get us all fucking killed. I agree, don’t talk to them, but because they’re a distraction from the real fucking problem, which is that fascism arises from the collapse of institutional legitimacy of liberal institutions.

    That’s how we got fucking Trump, that’s how we get what’s coming next after him that’s gonna be even worse. Because if you think there’s not gonna be more ecological and economic catastrophes in the future that liberalism is wholly unequipped to deal with, and that that failure isn’t gonna lead to fascism filling that fucking hole, then you’ve got another thing coming.

    And that’s what these guys are, these guys that marched in Charlottesville, these are the people who are aware of the unspoken premise of this sort of zombie neoliberalism that we’re living in, which is that we’re coming to a point where there’s gonna be ecological catastrophe, and that it’s gonna require either massive redistribution of the ill-gotten gains of the first world, or genocide.

    And these are the first people who have basically said, “Well if that’s the choice, then I choose genocide”, and they’re getting everyone else ready, intellectually and emotionally, for why that’s gonna be okay when it happens, why they’re not really people. When we’re putting all this money into more fucking walls and drones and bombs and guns to keep them away, so that we can watch them die with clear consciences, it’s because we’ve been loaded with the ideology that these guys are now starting to express publicly.

    On the other side of them, we have people who are saying in full fucking voice, “No, we have the resources to save everybody, to give everybody a decent and worthwhile existence, and that is what we want.” And that is the fucking real difference between these two, and you can tell that to the next asshole who tells you that they’re actually two sides of the same coin."

    -Matt Christman

  • rootsbreadandmakka [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    36·
    2 months ago

    President unprovoked kills a country’s leader and a bunch of schoolchildren while nominally in “negotiations” which were always just a stalling tactic which leads to an important trade route being closed and a bunch of bombings of airports and hotels, other countries have to stop oil production because of the attacks and that president having to evacuate a number of bases and embassies in the region

    Bernie Sanders is gonna get us killed

    • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      18·
      2 months ago

      It’s almost like no matter how much you try to placate the fascists, it’ll never be enough and they’ll destroy you the instant you are no longer useful to them, no matter how much of their ass you kiss.

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    27·
    2 months ago

    People are getting killed because this cursed empire is inadequately opposed, they’re dying right now and… this one has a hypothetical to clutch pearls over?

    They’re beyond parody

  • LeZero [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    26·
    2 months ago

    One of the tweet in question they posted under

    Which I find cringy because he has been exposed as a Zionist but otherwise pretty correct

    • Damarcusart [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
      22·
      2 months ago

      He’s doing the #notmyzionism thing that all the libs are doing now, this war is bad because Trump and Netanyahu, not because of the monstrousness of it all. It’s setting them up as a scapegoat to blame for all this and act like Israel is completely innocent, and rely on lib’s goldfish memories to forget everything that Israel has ever done and just think that Netanyahu is just a “bad apple” who just needs to be voted out and everything can be ignored will be good again.

    • CarmineCatboy2 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      16·
      2 months ago

      Bernie is a liberal zionist. He’s firmly with the traditional ruling class of Israel, meaning he wants a sustainable system of minority rule combined with buffer occupations in Lebanon and Syria. The only reason liberal zionists dislike Netanyahu is because they feel perpetual genocidal war to keep Bibi in power is bad for them and they are right. Bibi’s constituency are the religious fundamentalists and lower zionist classes in Israel.