• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    So they’re ruining the original artistic vision, dumbing down literature despite existing whithin the greatest age of information, all while possibly ruining the original message and meanings of the book. Tech bros need to walk outside, touch grass, feel the warmth of the sun on their skin, and maybe try talking to an actual human for once in their life.

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      I’m proud of my demon spawn

      She’s a tech savvy electrical engineer who spends her working hours mucking about with semiconductors.

      When she’s not at work, which seems to be pretty much all day every day, she’s out on remote hiking trails with primitive camping gear.

      From this old man’s perspective, she’s living the ideal balanced life.

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        Computer engineer here. I’m similar, spend a lot of my time mucking w/ semiconductors & such at work - I wouldn’t quite say CompEs and EEs are “tech bros” though. Tech savvy? Sure! But tech bros I like to think are the people who are more interested in monetizing tech than actually knowing how to use it.

        That said, I most certainly consider myself a demon spawn.

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      I dunno - if A.I. is suggesting tech bros launch themselves into the sun, I could maybe get behind it.

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    Wow it’s like they’re actively trying to make people dumber and not even hiding it anymore

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        Something like this to produce graded readers is a great idea, but I don’t see anything in the ad itself that indicates it’s for language learners. If this is for a general audience for native speakers, then it’s enabling people to avoid learning to read (and ultimately use) more complex and nuanced language, in favor of infantilizing consumers and spoon feeding them everything.

        The only use case I could see this being a positive for when aimed at native speakers would be something like adult literacy programs, or maybe homeschooling for kids with difficulties learning to read who don’t have the trained, professional support that one would hope they might have in a more typical school setting. For adults who struggle with illiteracy, I could see this being quite beneficial, though. It’s something that people will often be embarrassed about to begin with, and somebody who’s feeling self-conscious about this could be demotivated by only being able to read books aimed at children. Even if they say “Screw it, I need to do this,” it can be difficult to maintain motivation and interest when the only content you can find at your reading level is written for little kids. If they could have adult materials adapted to a level that’s challenging but manageable for them, I could certainly see that being a good thing.

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        It does if that “evolution” consists of removing large or complex words simply because they’re “too hard”

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          They aren’t removed because they’re too hard, they’re removed because they’re inconvenient. They are removed when there is a more succinct and/or better understood alternative, for example “evolution” doesn’t have a good alternative to replace it. Memorizing relatively obscure words isn’t intellectual, and as simple building blocks as possible can often better communicate more complex ideas. There’s a reason C is better liked than C++

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          I dont even know what “modern english” means. I feel like this is more book learning stuff that many don’t care about and it’s exactly why we need AI to circumvent all these terms and complexities.

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              No, I want specialized linguistic Ph.D people to also understand it, but I think boring teenagers with language that old is unnecessary and pointless.

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                  People who have IQs less.than 110 are probably wasting time by studying Calculus.

                  Society uses a huge amount of time and resources to have people educated and it’s bizarre how little specialiization and how much boredom is involved.

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    I love that they picked a book that is 90% nuance and symbolism for a tool that destroys nuance and symbolism…it’s like claymation Shakespeare celebrity death match.

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      I think that’s too short-sighted. I remember reading The Great Gatsby and I didn’t like it, because it was so hard to decipher. That leads to either reading it only superficially or not at all. How does that help teen literacy?

      If you want to increase teen literacy, give them something to read that they actually enjoy or care about. High-society of (literally) a hundred years ago doesn’t help.

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        Part of the point of reading literature is appreciating how authors write books. “Literacy” includes being able to read and understand diverse styles of writing. This seems more like it’s geared toward passing standardized tests that require reading comprehension.

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        How does that help teen literacy?

        We shouldn’t be pushing great literature on teens. They lack the life experience to even appreciate it. They mark it down as “read” and then it’s off their list for life. All we do by pushing crap teenagers don’t get and therefore don’t like on teens is to inoculate them from great fiction. Let them read whatever they like.

        The timeless stuff doesn’t become apparent as such until one’s thirties anyway.

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    It is so important to take the artistic out of art. Especially right now when shitgasming AI is spaffing out content with no artistic value whatsoever!

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    "It was the age of wisdom, it was the age of foolishness, it was the epoch of belief, it was the epoch of incredulity, it was the season of light, it was the season of darkness, it was the spring of hope, it was the winter of despair”.

    Becomes… “Things were confusing”

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      Cognitive disabilities are a thing. Accommodating for them would be a good thing.

      Not that that’s the intended purpose of that AI, probably, but if it can simplify the form without twisting the content*, it could be a great tool to make complex works more approachable. It’s not necessarily a question of “can they understand it” as much as “can they be arsed to read it”. I know plenty of people that just straight up didn’t read one of the books relevant for our finals and just skirted through with guides laying out the things you were supposed to know. The book wasn’t necessarily impossible to understand, but so tedious to dig into they just couldn’t muster the motivation.

      I don’t know how many books worth reading for their point remain unread by people who didn’t find the wrapping around that point appealing. Simplification may help them, even if it butchers the artful use of language others enjoy.

      *The issue I’m concerned about is that the content may be inadvertently twisted in the process of being parsed and rephrased by an AI with no actual sense for the semantics. Who would notice? Would you have someone proof-read it? What about repeat queries of the same book? Would you assemble a library of simplified books?

      At that point you might as well make manually supervised “translations” into simpler language that take care to preserve the point, can be written once and revised when language shifts. You’d still get the benefits, but also be less dependent on an AI doing a good job.

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    Fuck it downvote me for having the wrong opinion but I am okay with this existing. Looking at the full feature list it has additional vocabulary learning tools and the reading level is scalable which might make this a hugely helpful tool for new or very young language learners.

    CliffsNotes already exists, yes, but summaries are different from paraphrasing, and it is very hit or miss with the accuracy of its summaries which usually have terrible grammar and writing quality anyway, making it awful for most English learners’ applications.

    Don’t like it? Don’t download it.

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      I don’t have a problem with simplified versions of texts – archaic language, ornamented prose, and obsolete cultural references shouldn’t stand in the way of someone having access to the ideas contained in great literature. But I like it when people do the simplifying–like “Reader’s Digest” versions, or Cliff’s Notes, or whatever. It’s a skilled profession that already doesn’t get the credit it deserves, and I worry AI will eclipse human work with voluminous inferior results.