Summary
Elon Musk suggested cutting Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid in a Fox News interview, citing debunked claims about fraud and linking benefits to illegal immigration.
He falsely claimed millions of deceased individuals remain in the Social Security system, a statement previously refuted by officials.
While Trump has promised not to cut entitlement programs, Musk’s remarks indicate they are under threat, potentially impacting millions of Americans.
His rhetoric echoes far-right conspiracy theories, raising concerns about his influence on policy discussions regarding social safety nets.
If you’re 70, don’t worry this will all be over soon…unless you’re doing an 18 year old right now. I would find me a nice person who might be coughing some freedom up. You’ll find then at the public transit and the urgent care unit at your local hospital. There are quicker ways. Thanks for voting trump!
Don’t worry, I’m sure they’ll just move your money into something else like the crypto reserve
“Admits”.
Haven’t demons like Paul Ryan had their entire political career motivated by ending Social Security? It’s not like the Republicans’ desire to kill old people is any secret…
You work until you die
Either the work kills you (no OSHA) or You work until you die from old age
There will be no retirement for the poors
Seriously…. Why the fuck is this clown allowed to cut ANYTHING?
The moment he cuts a single service someone depends on, he should be sued into submission. How is this happening?
Because the President and the Republican majority in the House and Senate are onboard with it, and that’s the authority driving it (mostly the President, but the reason that Congress isn’t objecting to or trying to block stuff is because they’re okay with it). Musk may be the face of the cuts — he doesn’t have to worry about re-election, unlike politicians — he has no authority of his own. His organization is just saying “this is what we should cut”, and the cuts happen under the President’s authority. Musk isn’t independently going out and cutting things.
Musk isn’t independently going out and cutting things.
It’s weird seeing this complete and utter bullshit being unironically spewed still. It wasn’t Trump that cut the air traffic controllers, or nuclear watchdogs, or infections disease investigators. It was Musk, and spreading this propaganda just helps protect Trump from allowing it.
Oh okay. So where’s my fucking money???
We should use the chopping block on him, and repurpose his wealth to fund government programs. Especially for repaying federal employees for this shitshow.
A kawaii guillotine. I have truly seen it all now.
I’ve had this saved as a reaction image for a while now
I’m gonna be honest, I kinda want my tattoo artist to make me a kawaii guillotine tattoo now
You should see my Hello Kitty bandsaw.
Is there a 6 foot sliding bench attached to it? Because I have to admit, Automatic Guillotine sounds pretty badass.
I suppose it is big enough for that…
He should be on the chopping block
Where do I get a refund on my social security payments I’ve put in my entire adult life?
I know you’re joking but for those that don’t understand:
When you pay in your Social Security each paycheck. That money is immediately handed out to another person. When you go to collect Social Security in reality, you’re justliving on somebody else’s money. You never see your money again. It really is just social welfare.
(not so) fun fact: The average black male American never sees a penny from social security because the program is biased toward those who live long enough to reap the benefits of the program. So, despite paying in an entire working life, dying too young rewards you with a big fat nothing.
Also fun fact: I’ve been pulling made up statistics (also without any corroborating numbers) out of my butt since the last ice age!
The average life expectancy of a black male in the US is 72 years. Are you saying they’re just choosing not to pull SS? Something doesn’t seem right with your stat.
What the fuck have you been smoking? Do you seriously believe that the average black male American will die before retirement age?
You know, Elon Musk is a person with a neck.
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Hooray!
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This is a great point.
And he thinks empathy is a flaw in humans, so…
A neck that’s awfully long. Maybe we could help him out and shorten it a bit.
I know some folks that can fashion a guillotine!
Many people are saying…
I sincerely hope these cuts do not happen, but if they do, I hope we see a massive “grey wave” of large scale protests from older folks who rely on these programs. They worked and paid into Social Security their whole lives and deserve that money.
I already told my Trump-voting mom that if there’s anyone that deserves to lose it, it’s her. She doesn’t care. Trumpers are irrevocably anti-human even if they get hurt in the process. Fuck the future, fuck everyone but them, and fuck them too as long as everyone else is getting fucked harder.
The thing is, the elders have all bought in to this idea that there’s no money for social security and medicare not because it’s been whittled away and underfunded and means tested to death for forty years, but rather there’s just massive, massive fraud, and everybody’s stealing from social security before it gets to them. So, they’re probably all cheering this push to cut entitlements because they think that all these fraudsters will be kicked off, and surely they won’t be kicked off, surely their social security benefits will actually be a good amount once all those mooches are kicked off. When it does happen to them, and it will, they won’t realize that it was by design, they’ll all be stunned that Trump and Musk made this “mistake” and swept them up in the cuts.
And if we have elections again, they’ll thumb a ride from outside of their tent by the highway to catch a ride to the polling booths where they will vote for Trump’s third term? I’m thinking some of them will have to figure it out by then.
Imma be straight with you, dawg, my MAGA mom is still unironically, dead seriously convinced that Obama is the anti-Christ and he’s going to come back and seize control of the government and launch a nuclear apocalypse literally any moment now.
How Many Presidents Have Been Accused of Being the Antichrist?
Hint: It’s not just Obama.
Suspected White House shooter Oscar Ramiro Ortega-Hernandez was obsessed with President Barack Obama, according to investigators, and reportedly thought Obama was the Antichrist. In September, heckler David Serrano called Obama “the Antichrist” at a fundraiser. Have other U.S. presidents been suspected of being the Antichrist?
Yes. Perhaps the first U.S. president suspected of being the Antichrist was Franklin Delano Roosevelt. Roosevelt’s extraordinary influence and desire to form a worldwide United Nations raised the suspicions of many conservative Christians. When President Roosevelt began to engage in diplomacy with the Soviet Union, prominent evangelist and politician Gerald Burton Winrod suggested that Roosevelt was at the very least under the influence of the Antichrist, and carrying out his plans. During John F. Kennedy’s candidacy for president, Protestant leaders compared electing Kennedy, a Catholic, to electing the Antichrist. In 1990 a man named Gregory Stuart Gordon invaded the house of former president Ronald Reagan, telling Secret Service agents “Ronald Reagan is the Antichrist. He must be killed and I must kill him.” While Gordon’s attorney claimed that Gordon was only trying to attract attention in hopes of gaining treatment for a drug problem, courts judged that his threat was serious and sentenced him to a two-year prison term.
While Trump has promised not to cut entitlement programs
And we all know how much Trump’s word is worth.
We also all know how much in charge of the White House he is too.
Reminder: you paid taxes in order to receive social security when you need it. If they negate on that deal, ask for your taxes back.
Social Security’s “trust fund” is an empty pit of debt obligations. Benefits to current recipients are paid with incoming payroll taxes. Any difference is made up with additional taxes or monetary inflation, by way of Treasury bonds. They “reinvest it in the economy” if there’s ever a surplus, e.g., through military contractors. It finances the national debt.
Putting aside the quirks of that setup, the basic function is that the taxes you pay in now are not an investment in your own future, you’re basically just paying for the retirement of older people now. The expectation is that someone down the road will then pay taxes to finance your retirement. Hence, how SS was able to start paying benefits almost immediately (3 years) after payroll taxes started being collected.
Money back plus interest. Decades and decades of interest.
Don’t ask, take!
So storm the federal reserve like area 51?
Just tack on a huge refund the next time you file your income taxes. With the cuts to the IRS they’ll likely never contest it…
ask for your taxes back.
Sorry Elon fired all the help desk.
Fwiw the website is still up and it still says I’ll get my tree fiddy
Touch that shit, I fucken dare you.
If it gets out of hand Elmo will be left holding the bag and likely forced out. The Trump admin will continue on like nothing happened, they won’t lose an ounce of support, and DOGE will just be a short footnote on our decline to fascism.
I like your optimism
That’s not optimism, it’s the very real conclusion that Elon is the (miraculously unwitting) fall guy for all the bad shit they need done early on to facilitate everything else. They’ll get to do the whole “we got rid of the bad eggs, we’ve tuned over a new leaf” thing that conservative politicians love to do when they kick out a fall guy.
This time next year he’s going to be shouting on some fuckhead podcast about how he was used. I practically guarantee it.
Well that or Elon successfully manages to do what he thinks will happen and manages to take full control
Counterpoint: There’s a significant chance that Musk has dirt on Trump. He literally has access to Trump’s old DM’s from Twitter. There’s a good chance that when he was forced to buy Twitter he needed to find something he could leverage out of the forced buy. Trump’s DMs are easy pickings at that point, they were never encrypted. That’s why they’re called “Direct Messages” and not “Private Messages.”
Further, there’s rampant speculation that Musk helped him steal the election, but that’s a lot more loose and may not be a real thing. Musk having access to Trump’s past DMs on Twitter is basically a fact.
Yeah but even if he had DM that said he raped and ate women and children none of his supporters would care
Having dirt on him does nothing when his supporters eat dirt.
Very good point about the DMs. Surprised this issue isn’t being raised more often
It’s just like I have said about Putin having the underaged piss tapes. I don ‘t get it. Why should Trump lick his boots? Trump never suffers any consequences. No legal repercussions. His cult followers don’t drop him. Those supposed piss tapes could come out and no one would give a shit. So I’m not sure what his Twitter DMs could possibly have either.
It’s neigh impossible to fix US elections without thpusands working in secret. Musk did not fix the election. More people voted for Trump because the right has made a concerted effort to make Americans dumber and it worked.
In addition to Trump’s DM’s Musk might have his own ties to the Kremlin which will share dirt on both men with each other so none threaten Putin.
In the grand scheme of things Leon is just one of many douchebags. One that has been publicly grating to deal with for the rest of the gang. They’ve probably been planning an ouster against him for a minute, it’s just a matter of squeezing what use they can out of him in the meantime.
I 100% expect him to throw Elmo under the bus like he has with every other person that’s been on his side. He won’t really even need to try, his supporters will do it for him because they can’t handle a reality where they were wrong about the Orange One
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Tsar,_bad_Boyars
A process that worked for Russia!
In World War 2 Germany, a similar saying circulated: “If the Führer knew”
What a crazy coincidence!
Pretty sure I’ve even read a few cases of MAGAts writing to Trump, sure that he never meant to eat their faces.
I don’t.
Elon helped rig it. Elon is fucked if either of them reneg on it but it’s less likely.
They’ll just cut it for anybody under 60 or whatever, and their base will cheer them on.
They’ll just cut it for anybody under 60 or whatever, and their base will cheer them on.
Not if they have been paying into it. At least not unless they get a refund for what they paid into it.
Screw just being paid back. I want decades of interest on that loan I gave the government. If I don’t get at least 10% on my investment I’ll fucking riot.
Exactly, if they can’t hold up their end, it’s time for some old fashioned leg breaking.
No you won’t.
🤣 you don’t know anything about me. If I have no retirement to look forward to I have nothing to lose. I know I’m not alone in that sentiment too.
Just because you’re a pussy doesn’t mean everyone else is.
Idk I might 🤷♂️
If I don’t get at least 10% on my investment I’ll fucking riot.
No you won’t.
They call it the “third rail of politics” for a reason.
Yessss, anger the old people. Do it. They are the most reliable voting group.
What exactly are you going to do? Cry?
Dude, we are talking about 12.4% of folks taxable earnings since the day they all joined the workforce. You think tears are the only things gonna happen if that got stolen?
Yeah. I doubt the american people will do anything substantial
At the same time we’re also talking about a demographic that’s deeply steeped in fox news disinformation so who the fuck knows what they’d think the cause or actuality of the suspension of benefits would be.
I’m not certain which demo you’re referring. All Americans with jobs pay into SS, and certainly not even half of them give a fuck all about some shitty cable infotainment network.
All Americans should care - but the folks that really care are the ones dependent on it in their retirement.
Agreed, totally, I just don’t think there is any evidence that all of those people (many, many Americans) are Fox News fans or would even want to be in the same room when it’s on the television.
I was specifically talking to that demographic that collects social security which are of retirement age (generally) and overwhelming consume fox news according to viewership demographics.
Half of American nonretirees already expect to get nothing from Social Security when they retire.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/546890/americans-upbeat-future-social-security-benefits.aspx
I mean, there’d be a lot of upset people, but…
Also (sorry to double comment you) wanted to mention, I don’t think any American has yet had to deal with actually not having SS benefits (I mean generally, in that they still exist, I am not talking about exceptional cases and those where the benefits were taken away legally, if that exists).
From the Gallup article you posted:
Social Security’s future has been a topic of debate for decades. The system is expected to be able to continue to pay full benefits to recipients through 2033 if no changes are made to the system. In 2034, the system is projected to be able to pay 80% of benefits to recipients.
So it could happen in the next decade, but we expect it based on how it’s structured.
If it gets taken away from Americans by some ruling class, I’m pretty sure the reactions will be swift and meaningful. And I’m not even referring to any kind of violence, just normal old social and political and legal actions.
Sorry, I have to have things spelled out for me sometimes - what is your ‘but’?
Yes. What do you think will happen? Do you think there were no dictators or tyrannical regimes before or that they were universally liked? Most of the people that were at the helm end up fine, after decade or more of being in power. Don’t delude yourself that there will be some kind of revolution, people will just take it and move on.
I’m not deluded about any revolution and I didn’t use those words.
Yes, a lot.
It ain’t what the left is going to do that is reason for concern.
https://www.ssa.gov/deposit/T2StateSum_a.htm
https://www.adl.org/resources/report/right-wing-extremist-terrorism-united-states
If he wants a wave of suicide bombers on mobility scooters, he’s on the right track.
I’ll believe it when I see it, they are to far into the Kool aid.
Yup, they’ll cheer him on as they go into bankruptcy, end up living on the streets, and begging for enough change to get a meal.
“Biden should have warned us harder! Harris tricked us! Fuckin leftists(lol) used reverse psychology! Imma MAGA even harder just to get revenge!”
No way, a horrible person admits they probably might do something horrible after establishing a strong track record of doing horrible things?! I am SHOCKED. Who could have seen this horrible administration known for doing horrible things doing something horrible like this?
