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    He claimed Los Angeles limits residents to just 38 gallons of water a day, and referred to some mythical “valve” that could bring limitless water to L.A., but that officials instead diverted to the ocean.

    “They have a valve, think of a sink but multiply it by many thousands of times the size of it, it’s massive. And you turn it back toward Los Angeles. Why aren’t they doing it? They either have a death wish, they’re stupid or there’s something else going on that we don’t understand,” Trump said.

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      or there’s something else going on that we I don’t understand," Trump said.

      He was so close to realization.

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        If it’s of any comfort I’m predicting he’ll die within the next 4 years. But I’m also predicting it’ll only get worse with his death so maybe there’s not much comfort to be had.

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          If he died of old age tomorrow, his followers would probably think it was a deep state assassination. There would be no convincing these nutjobs that an old, unhealthy person like Trump could die.

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            And what should we do instead that you’re doing right now? I personally feel powerless in all of this.

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              Unfortunately, I don’t have the right answer. I can still recognize the wrong one though.

              That feeling of powerlessness over everything is what they want. It eventually leads to something called learned helplessness, where we no longer even try to change things.

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            Look mate, I don’t even live in the States and I need to keep my sanity. I did what I could when I felt like I could do it and Americans picked Trump, so I’m doing what I gotta do to survive. Is it selfish? Yeah, it is a little bit, but that’s the truth.

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      They either have a death wish, they’re stupid or there’s something else

      You know what they say. Everything that comes out of their mouths is either a confession or projection!

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      Maybe hes thinking of the fact that ~80% of California’s water goes to irrigation for crops instead of to communities.

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        Tbf, the crops come to our communities. We love our fresh California produce. It sparks joy.

        And the Palisades had enough water to drink and fill pools and grow landscape plants, and several people were hosing down their homes (a few died with hose in hand because the fire was way too strong for that and they should have evacuated but a lot of the rest of us made stupid decisions in the moment that just didn’t turn out as deadly.) but the real problem was that wind. They couldn’t do airdrops, the conflagration was too powerful. There was a problem with the hydrants, but honestly even if they’d been fully functioning it’s not clear if much more could have been saved. Altadena had plenty of water too, with working hydrants, but that maelstrom of fire was just crazy, man.

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          The problem with the hydrants is they used 9 million gallons of water, which was their entire reservoir (3 3 million gallon tanks in surrounding hills for water pressure).

          To feed hydrants you need massive quantities of water in a higher place for pressure.

          The state is investigating why they couldn’t keep up, but I think it’s as simple as the system wasn’t built to refill their reservoirs fast enough

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            Could be, it was an unprecedented situation. I’m also not sure if the water’s all connected and the folks using their house hoses took water from more strategic hydrants. And there’s perhaps a question to be asked about how hard it is under Prop 13 to pass property taxes for maintenance budgets.

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      Stupid does apply here, just not in the way he thinks it does. Also, who is “they”? Is he just referring to liberals?

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        I hate “they”. Whenever someone at work says “they” I immediately ask “who?” and don’t get off of it until they actually name a person. Does wonders for stopping the random boogeyman.

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        Also, who is “they”? Is he just referring to liberals?

        A lot of people are about to have a crash course on how fascism works…

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        It’s fucking wild how closely this skews with Revelation. The Beast and the Antichrist were two different people. The Beast distracted while the Antichrist ruled.

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    this is America.

    a zombie state that doesn’t realize it’s already dead.

    and nobody is willing to do what must be done to stop it.

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        Naw, playing it off as that fucker having a limited mental capacity takes away from the culpability of his actions. Hanlon’s razor absolutely does NOT apply to global leaders: the only assumption we can make is that everything he does is calculated and the effects of which are 100% intentional.

        People with mental retardation might do something harmful because their DNA dealt them a shitty hand and their mind isn’t equipped to self-correct in a socially acceptable way.

        When Trump does something harmful, it’s because he wants to cause harm, cuz he’s an evil sack of shit.

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          I will say that although obviously my opinion doesn’t matter (I’m just some guy on the internet, right), I think that it is deeply counter productive to ban the use of a word a) so completely innocuous and b) in all circumstances regardless of context. We must try not to be dogmatists, after all. The useage of the word is very important is it not. One would not ban a person for saying the word ‘nazi’, for example, (and here is the really important bit) in most contexts. If the person were to make a statement that suggests beyond reasonable doubt that they support nazi actions, then we could probably reasonably suggest that they receive a ban. In such a case they have demonstrated opinions that fall beyond the contract in which we engage by using a forum like this one.

          Similarly: consider my useage of the banned word above. Ask yourself not if it was offensive, because offense unless deeply intentional is subjective. Ask yourself instead if the useage was malicious. Ask yourself if it demonstrated an intent to breach the social contract. Consider this. And consider the value of enforcing arbitrary rules in a dogmatic sense, which is to say in a thoughtless sense, without consideration beyond the plain text. Ask yourself how best you can serve your community, and how you can serve those who try to make use of it. Remember that we are all of us here united in our interest in free and authentic (social) media, away from the propaganda and talking points that have become commonplace elsewhere. We make genuine attempts to communicate, and banning any useage of a single word regardless of content is extremely silly.

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    This follows on from previous posts https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-misinformation-about-the-los-angeles-wildfires-and-california-water-policy

    Trump, in a Jan. 8 Truth Social post, blamed Newsom’s management for the water issues, and said Newsom had refused to allow “beautiful, clean, fresh water to flow into California.”

    “Governor Gavin (Newsom) refused to sign the water restoration declaration put before him that would have allowed millions of gallons of water, from excess rain and snow melt from the North, to flow daily into many parts of California, including the areas that are currently burning in a virtually apocalyptic way,” Trump said. “He wanted to protect an essentially worthless fish called a smelt, by giving it less water (it didn’t work!), but didn’t care about the people of California. Now the ultimate price is being paid.”

    Trump’s posts seemed to blame the water constraints on statewide water management plans that capture rain and snow as it flows from Northern California. But experts said those plans would not have affected the fire response.

    Southern California has plenty of water stored, said Mark Gold, the water scarcity solutions director at the Natural Resources Defense Council and a Southern California Metropolitan Water District board member.

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    This guys a massive regard. Sad that I moved to lemmy because mods on reddit were oversensitive but the same thing is here lmao

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      Alright, then how about you go rake the leaves of the national forest and parks behind my house? You got this. Should be pretty easy from what you’re saying.

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      Don’t worry. I hear Trump is transferring funds to unimportant things like the Center for Disease Control and WIC in order to start his new Federal Forest Raking Program.

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      What do you get out of this? Are you some kind of abused dog that accepts negative attention likes its positive attention because it’s never received positive attention? Go to therapy, please, for yourself if no one else.

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        He’s alluding to a previous comment during Trump’s first term during earlier California wildfires about how Finland raked their forests.

        https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46256296

        Citing a conversation with his Finnish counterpart, Mr Trump said they spend “a lot of time on raking and cleaning”.

        But President Sauli Niinisto told a Finnish daily he could not remember talking about raking when the two met.

        Firefighters in California are currently battling the deadliest blaze in the state’s history.

        Surveying the damage on Saturday, Mr Trump revisited his claim that poor forest management was to blame.

        “You look at other countries where they do it differently, and it’s a whole different story,” he said.

        “I was with the president of Finland, and he said: ‘We have a much different [sic]…, we’re a forest nation.’ And they spent a lot of time on raking and cleaning and doing things, and they don’t have any problem,” he added.

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            I got it instantly, and I cracked a smile

            Honestly, people are just scared and looking for a fight. And I mean…shit is fucked. Still sucks that people on lemmy seem to have stopped trying to understand though, things have not been the same here in the last few months

            Anyways, /s kills any humor in the joke, I appreciated a little reminder of the absurdity of this timeline. Humor is how we keep it together when everything is on fire

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              Lemmy is full of people who’re looking for an argument or some way to feel smug and superior. All the “well, ackshually” big brains moved over here and it’s exhausting.

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                Nah, I pick my words carefully, and usually have a mountain of science behind them

                For example, I said 4/5 of RFK’s opinions are actually pretty good, but the 5th is so insane it puts the last 4 into doubt.

                Someone calls me out on “they want to put AuDHD people into camps”. I say I’m one of them, and being able to voluntary get out of the modern world for as long as you need is a safety net that would save so many lives

                They asked if I had a PhD, so I hit them with the science - behavioral activation, getting away from your stressors, and getting away from modern life (because we’re not crazy, the modern human world is what’s crazy) is the most effective treatment for most mental illness. And I went on to list my concerns about implementation, and how this great idea could easily become a work camp if it’s not as voluntary as advertised

                They hit me with “that’s some pull yourself up by your bootstraps shit”

                That’s what lemmy has been like. It’s not “um actually”, it’s “if I totally breeze through what you said in the most uncharitable way, I can interpret this as you said something horrible”

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                  I classify them the same. People who read a 3 paragraph comment and pick one single part (and act like it discredits your entire point) are the worst of the ackshuallyers.

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            Whenever you omit a /s you take a risk.

            Especially given Lemmy’s substantial nuerodivergent population clear markers of sarcasm are always a good idea.