Don’t come to Canada. We don’t have enough housing for the people already here. Most of you will die of exposure during your first winter here.
Go to Mexico instead. I’m sure they’ll take you.
Canada talking a lot of good shit in posts like this lately. Don’t get me wrong, I grew up near the border and I love Canada, but don’t pretend it’s not just a handful of resource extraction companies stacked in a trench coat pretending to be a country.
We rank above the US is virtually every metric. Education. Healthcare. Life expectancy. Lower infant and maternal mortality. Standard of living. Quality of life. Safety. Religious freedom. Personal freedom. Better place to do business. Better place to headquarter a business. Better beer. Maple syrup.
But by all means, keep telling yourself whatever you need to tell yourself to get through the day.
To be fair, other countries want US citizens even less than the US wants* immigrants.
Do people actually think that the US is alone in anti-immigration sentiment? Do they think it’s different because they’re American?
The US is the one with a giant monument to immigration, at whose feet is a plaque that reads:
Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!
And if they, of all people, are now against that, what makes Americans think anyone else will want them? It’s delusional.
Many countries shut down immigration to Americans in 2016, after the first round of trump’s policies, and they haven’t opened back up yet, partly because there was a solid chance of this happening again.
???
It’s easy as piss to emigrate from America as long as you:
Are white, middle class, not provably disabled, not gay, with no criminal history, with at least one million in assets, as long as you don’t have a history of activism, already are hired by a local company, and have a STEM degree.
See?
Easy.
I checked out Canadian requirements. The first stage of screening asks your name, email and year of birth - which only goes back to 1970. So apparently I’m too old.
That number specifically indicates that they’re probably using a positive integer amount of seconds since the epoch (jan 1st, 1970). Rookie mistake.
Hey, that’s not entirely fair. Russia is more than happy to accept Americans, so long as they’re willing to be cannon fodder for a while. I’m pretty sure they’re not even putting an age limit on it. If you survive, you may even get a small flat afterwards. And if you don’t, they may give your parents money for a Lada (providing they were Russian citizens already).
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IMO any American who wants to emigrate to Russia is welcome to become topsoil in Ukraine.
The US wants immigrants, MAGA doesn’t want immigrants. And I can fully understand anybody not wanting MAGAs. I wish they would evaporate off the face of the Earth.
Don’t worry. He’ll be coming for Canada. You already have MAGA lovers up there. Who’s going to stop him? The Canadian military?
It already well on it’s way depending on your province. People have moved out of Quebec because of the intolerance going on there. Hell, I know a streamer who moved because someone threw a fucking brick through their window at his wife who moved there from the USA. Not because she’s black or colored either, because she’s white as a piece of paper.
It things like this that make me lose faith in my fellow man.
Canada’s gonna swing the same way next year so you’re not really escaping from anything anyways
Do you think that this is an import from the US kind of thing, or more of a global trend?
Definitely seems like a global trend.
Already swung super anti-immigration as of earlier this year, so the move to Canada plan isn’t going to be as easy either
But I’m one of the good ones!
Yeah the Trump win is only gonna help conservatives…I really hate them and their leader, but Trudeau has shit the bed for so long that people are just sick of him
The Liberals are admittedly a stale 3 day old cheap deli sandwich. People want something warm, fresh, and organic. Conservatives check all of those boxes.
Too bad it’s horseshit.
Skippy will axe the carbon tax which honestly will make people like him enough to ignore some of the… other things he will do. That will lower prices of everything, maybe not to the levels of the beforetime because corpos won’t let that free profit disappear but it will make life easier for many.
Removing the carbon tax won’t appreciably lower the price of anything for any amount of time. It won’t make life easier for average Canadians because the average Canadian gets that money back. We’ll have the same prices, the same unachievable cost of living, but with fewer social supports.
The free market has never once chosen morality over profit. Year after year we’ve proven we can suffer through it, so there is no motivation to change.
You can outlive this. There’s a good chance he can’t. Be strong, and look out for those more vulnerable than yourself.
My concern is that the train is still running at full speed even if the driver has died of a heart attack.
Oh boy, President JD ‘couch enthusiast’ Vance!
That’s just it, I’m a white male, I know I’ll be comparatively fine. It’s not really me I’m worried about.
Thank you for this. It’s more helpful than you know.
I’ve been looking for silver linings. The two I’ve found are:
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Trump probably won’t live to see the end of his term. Dude is old and not exactly healthy. One could argue Vance taking his place would be worse, but I’m choosing to focus on the positives here.
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Trump winning very likely prevented a civil war. I know a ton of people who had been stocking up on supplies and weapons. Again, one could argue giving these people the keys to the kingdom probably wasn’t the smartest move, but again I’m trying to focus on the positives.
I think he’s the devil and he’ll never die. I wouldn’t count on him dying. In my experience really poisonous people live a long time.
He is basically line for line the biblical antichrist. That’s infinitely funny to me.
this is honestly the thing that’s getting me to question my atheism.
I mean the Antichrist loses so you go that going for you I guess
Hey, quit shitting on my silver lining. I choose to believe he’ll die soon due to Macdonald’s induced heart failure and you can’t take that hope away from me!
It’s not like there was an assassination attempt during his rise to power and he survived with a headwound or anything like that, right?
ROFL
Trump didn’t prevent civil war. Think back to what happened after the Jan 6 insurrection. When they failed to stop Biden’s certification by valiantly committing minor vandalism and taking selfies, MAGA ominously promised that vague “actions” would occur in state capitals on his inauguration day. That day came and went, and the few “actions” that even happened had attendance in the dozens - mostly pathetic loners holding cardboard signs in the rain. The fired-up revolutionaries saw their freedom-fighting heroes methodically tracked down by the FBI and arrested, so instead of a civil war uprising they stayed home and posted angy tirades on Parler.
Contrast this with any real cause, like the BLM marches, which saw thousands of people show up week after week, in city after city, in spite of police beatdowns, arrests, and even some deaths. The difference is personal commitment. MAGAs are great at making loud noises, but when they’re faced with the prospect of individual risk, most of them just hide in their freedom bunkers and shake their tiny fists at the TV. That bunch of blowhards will stock up on survival rations and tactical desert boots, but they couldn’t civil war their way out of a Walmart.
Agreed on both points. The second means today is safer although Project 2025 spells danger ahead.
As for Trump, his physical deterioration and dementia and just general chaos of intentions are more of a check on him accomplishing evil than anything legal or political. When he runs the economy completely off the rails will it spark anything in the midterms? Will his Cabinet change every week? How long until he “never met” Elon?
So we draw breath, and persevere.
Maybe the left will start the civil war. Then again, they wouldn’t even get out to vote, so.
The right was unified behind their belief that the election was stolen from Trump, and wanted him put back in power.
The left can’t agree on leadership at all, and doesn’t think this election was any more stolen than it was in 2000/2016.
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It’s not just that, people are acting like things are better in other countries. Like, name ONE country that has not gone off the deep end and ended up on the right recently. One major player. I’ll wait. There is no utopia waiting for you in those other countries because they don’t want you there and acting like you will be accepted as a refugee is foolhardy. The USA is a shit show right now, but we also don’t know the future. It looks bleak right now because of the information we have RIGHT NOW. If you want to move out of the country, be my guest, but don’t act like it’s going to automatically be better, it’s just going to be a different kind of shit show.
It’s not much better over here anyways, anti trans laws and oil industry dick sucking is ramping up more than ever.
UK here, get off our lawn. Transphobia is our chief export.
What anti trans laws are you refering to? I wasn’t aware of that.
Alberta is about to pass some pretty serious anti-trans legislature that a lot of people are protesting, but we cant really do anything (legally) to stop them
I’d ask “what have trans people ever done to anyone” but you could ask the same of any minority they harass (Facism needs a target)
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Seems like it’s only going to get worse, too.
Well, then kick him out. Or maybe guillotine him out, so that he doesn’t return.
Like, if people were actually that irked that he won, they’d be doing something. But no, from what I hear El Trumpo actually won the popular vote: the US wants to be fascist. Maybe Canada too. (No, not as in the US wants to be Canada… although that’d be an improvement…)
So far, it’s only been his supporters trying to kill him. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
At least we’ll always have the ironic laugh at how the US, a country with guns for everyone, didn’t even get a tin medal in shooting the Olympics, and how the US, a country with the 2nd Amendment, can’t even kill a tyrant right.
I’m concerned that there is no doubt this is what America wants.
Well, it’s more like 15 million people didn’t vote that voted in the last election. Lots of reasons for that 15m, but there was definitely an effort to create pathetic non-voters
Which means 15m people don’t mind being fascists, which functionally is the same as they actively want to be fascists.
But hey at least they don’t want to be Canada… I guess?I know it’s easy to say that they don’t mind being fascists but I’ve been talking to a lot of relatives and I believe it’s more of a mix of being misinformed, passionate and then on top of that disadvantaged. Resulting in a type of apathy that allows them to stand by.
They don’t register the threat the way you and I might, just like in Germany they will fold into the fascist party all the same.
In Germany they had a name for these kind of people, it was still Nazi.
…What, being like Canada? 👀
Safety?
I love the assumption that other countries would just take American emigrants.
It’s a shit ton harder than people realize… well at least to go anywhere in the industrialized world. Unless you are independently wealthy or have an extremely high demand job.
Billy Bob who’s career is working at McDonalds isn’t going to get approved.
have an extremely high demand job.
I’m banking on this actually. My specialties are, and my wife’s is as well. So I’m reaching out to companies I know with a presence to see what my options are where I’d like to go, and decide from there. I doubt we will be the only ones though, so we’ll see what that ends up looking like.
The only up side is I’m in a very niche specialty with broad experience, have contacts on both sides of the work I do.
I think I’m in a better position than most, and I still think its going to be an uphill battle.
I’m considering applying for asylum to Ireland
Lol, good luck with that one.
I’ve looked into it, believe me. New Zealand too. My wife is too rooted to our house, and we have an adult daughter still living at home with medical problems that would probably disqualify her.
Sure, but there’s also half of your countrymen to think about
True. Trump does not hold a monopoly on suck.
But he does have a monopoly on his fan base. Hopefully the hamburder in his veins requires a scramble for a new king and none of his court can agree who should have the crown and the crowd rejects them anyway.
Like 20% at best, the shitlibs have this coming.
Canada is just america but 5-10 years behind on the crazy policies. It really isn’t any better and cost of living is often higher than in america.
This is simply not true. Did America have universal medicine 5-10 years ago? Subsidized education? Abortion and trans rights? Refugee policies? The only country in America attempting to highlight the genocide in Gaza?
Seems to me americans love to say Canada is americas retarded cousin (quoting tucker carlson) because it makes them feel better, but it’s simply not true.
Our society isnt exactly the same as America’s but it does seem to mirror it a little more every year. For example we are on the brink of losing our public healthcare and some provinces are attacking trans rights. Canada has also been exporting arms to Israel during the genocide.
Stay strong people!
WeMost of us* survived the last Trump presidency, we got this.Gaza won’t survive. Ukraine likely won’t survive.
American democracy’s survival is questionable at best.
I’m not saying ‘give up’. But we also have to recognize the magnitude of the impact this election is going to have. And many people who stay here despite everything are going to have their lives at risk.
All empires fall. This is just our turn. That isnt the scary part. The scary part is how failing empires often lash out militarily on the way out. And this one has nukes.
American democracy? already dead. we have already slipped into constitutional oligarchy territory
in simple words. We’re fucked.
Look at the bright side: today’s the best day of the rest of your life! And so will every day from now on!
Immigration in most developed countries is stricter than the US. And we all know the US’s immigration restrictions are insane.
