Two hours before Donald Trump was set to take the stage at Madison Square Garden in New York City, right-wing comedian Tony Hinchcliffe warmed up the crowd with a shockingly racist performance.
“Where are my proud Latinos at tonight?” Hinchcliffe asked the packed arena, eliciting scattered loud cheers. “You guys see what I mean? [The border’s] wide open. There’s so many of them.”
“These Latinos, they love making babies, too,” he added. “There’s no pulling out. They don’t do that. They come inside just like they did to our country.”
The crowd groaned and cheered as Hinchcliffe continued, saying, “Republicans are the party with a good sense of humor.”
Hinchcliffe is a complete POS. I Voted Blue, fuck MAGA.
The 1% don’t want to pay taxes or fair wages, somebody else’s race isn’t what’s causing that.
The culture war is all bullshit and distraction, the only thing that matters is taxing the richest and putting that money towards creating less fragile and sustainable communities and economies.
Omg, the belt buckle alone makes me dislike him.
I watched the set. Honestly… it was so bad and blatant and distasteful it’s almost like a sabotage job. I’m not saying it’s true, as Hinchcliffe seems like a shitty person in general. BUT. If he was a different comedian, I could almost see this as a really devious way of undermining and exposing the racism of Trump Republicans. Targeting Hispanics multiple times right before an election that’s on a razor’s edge? Specifically targeting Puerto Ricans, who have large representation in Pennsylvania?
It seemed weird that he was specifically unwilling to say he’ll vote for Trump. He implied it and talked around it, but he didn’t say he would. He hid behind the idea that as an entertainer, it would be bad for him. And yet, there’s no way it would be bad for him while literally opening a Trump rally, so it seemed like a weird choice that really stuck out to me.
For anyone else watching it, didn’t it almost seem like satire? Like he was trying to get them to laugh about awful shit in a way that would make them all look bad? I find it highly unlikely that’s what he intended (though it is what he did), but that refusal to actually say he’s voting for Trump really stuck out to me.
I think you’re giving Tony way too much credit. This is exactly the type of shit he says on his show, it just has a much different impact at a political rally
Serious question, is it likely that comedians who he brings on Kill Tony are also conservative racist POS assholes? I hope not because I actually kind of enjoyed Casey Rocket for a bit when he came up through that show. Definitely got a weird vibe from the host that made me wonder who they were and what the show really was (now I know).
A lot are, some are just a bit right while others are conservative and others just straight up Nazis. Oh and the pedophiles and sexual assaulters, been a lot of those.
Here’s the set if anyone’s curious: https://youtu.be/4sjLNxnKKxY
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This guy is funny and what he said was also funny. I dont understand the hate and why are they saying that trump said all those things? I feel like I’m in the twilight zone!
Hinchcliffe also referred to Puerto Rico as a “floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean” and made a remark about Black people who “carved watermelons” instead of pumpkins for Halloween.
You’re right, now that I’ve read that part, I can see why he’s so funny. I mean I haven’t seen a good black people/watermelon joke since at least 1953, am I right?
The jokes he makes on his show Kill Tony to other black and hispanic comedians are 10x worst. He is also so racist that he is constantly bringing new black/hispanic comedians to his platform to support them. You must be a very boring person to not see the comedy in it and only focus on racism!
Sorry… are you saying “apart from all the racism, he’s really funny?”
Is that kind of like saying that apart from all the murder, John Wayne Gacy was a good party clown?
He is really funny and he constantly helps new black/hispanic comedians. He was never a racist! You are confusing comedy with racism.
I think you’re confusing racism with comedy…
I think you don’t have a sense of humor.
If you don’t understand what is racist about saying black people carve watermelons for Halloween, I think you should ask any black people you might know if that’s a funny and not racist joke.
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Considering I did both standup and professional comedy writing for 20 years, I think I do actually.
I think the setting is bad in this context. You’re right that if he was at a comedy club or on his show it would be funny but he is at a political rally. He created this set to pander to a crowd of racists. In any other context I think it’s clear it’s a routine but not here.
There’s also the problem that it’s just not particularly funny. Jokes that punch down on minorities are always shit. Even ‘ironically’ they’re usually shit. It’s uncreative, it’s the lowest common denominator and it also tells me the people thigh-slapping their way through the comedian’s set are idiots at best, straight-up racist at worst. Given the context this set took place in, I think we can safely assume the latter here.
So, how’s your standup career starting off. You must be trying to get a career if you think tony hinchcliff is funny. Dudes about as funny as Carlos Mencia. And like Carlos Mencia, only exists due to the talent of other comedians.
Kill tony is hilarious wtf are u on about? He is funnier than 99% of comedians out there. You just didn’t like his one joke about PR!
If it was at a Kill Tony show or a comedy show then it would literally just be someone making dumb jokes. At a political rally it takes on a whole different meaning. It’s leading the audience to think a certain way. Not everyone at those rally’s is actually paying attention to anything other than big talking points. Saying a whole island of people are garbage is a pretty leading thing to say. It leads the audience to feel their racism is confirmed.
Are you saying the people that attend these shows dont know who will be speaking? Cause they do! Also what he said is a joke, its pretty racist to actually think the island is garbage like you are saying. Feel bad for people who cant take a joke!
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Aren’t comedians supposed to be funny?
For that audience they don’t need to be funny, they have to be racist.
Funny but not so funny story. I was at the Playhouse in Cleveland, Ohio about 15 years back and my stepdad really wanted to take us to Finnegan’s Wake. It was an improv show where the actors would take suggestions from the audience in what would happen next. A few of us were trying to to be playful with the context, but the vast majority of the meatheads in the audience just kept shouting out lewd suggestions like the reverend fucking the widow. Over and over and over again. The lead guy (reverend) got so tired of it that he said “is this all you want to see!” and humped the actress a few times then ended the show. Simultaneously the best and saddest anti joke I’ve ever experienced.
Take it as you will, but these are the kind of people we are now hinging our democracy on.
Ohio’s a great state to leave.
I’d love to find out…
For real though it’ll always be home despite folks like that. I do want to leave and find a job somewhere like New Jersey or Chicago, but we shouldn’t be defined by our assholes any more than New York should be defined by trump
Have you ever watched Fox’s “late night” show? The guy just sits there, spews the dumbest most hateful things about anyone not in the Trump bubble, and never once smiles or even laughs. He looks like he hates everything about life the entire time.
They don’t understand what being funny is. They think it’s all just insults.
What is the Fox Late Night Show?
Greg Gutfeld. Apparently he gets the highest ratings in all of late night.
Ah king of late night, highest ratings. That’s why I’ve never heard of him.
It’s the kind of laughing that doesn’t reach the eyes… Like mean girls in middle school cackling after torturing some poor kid.
Tell that to Chappelle.
Comedy is woke, their comedians are just racist /s
jfc… racist humour is always so stupid and lazy.
Hinchcliffe also referred to Puerto Rico as a “floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean” and made a remark about Black people who “carved watermelons” instead of pumpkins for Halloween.
A politician having trash like this warm the crowd for them should be shocking.
It should be. I’m just surprised he didn’t drop the n-word
A politician having trash like this warm the crowd for them should be shocking.
It isn’t. This is because bigotry is an acceptable political position.
Energize the base… has a poetic ring to it.
Free the base
This is the other thing that’s fueling MAGA conservatives. Birth rates. It’s a topic that keeps coming up in organic conversation.
The talk there isn’t so much about lower birth rates and such. It’s emphasizing how much brown and black people are still having “tons of babies” which everyone else (read: white people) are not.
This should scare you and not so much for the embedded racist sludge that goes with it, but how it speaks to driving motivation. And what MAGA may choose to do about white people not having babies, and how supportive their supporters will be of that choice.
This comedian speaking about that topic under the guise of comedy is simply there to stir that pot. It’s still a political speech of sorts.
It’s white replacement theory promoted via “comedy”
I read that the drop in birth rates is almost 100% attributable to solving teen pregnancy.
There’s also the well documented effect that more educated people just have less kids in general, and it seems to hold for every country.
I imagine the difference is a between “why” and “why not”.
A generally educated couple might encounter the question of “Is there I reason why I should have kids?”, decide “yes, because I’d like to”, and have 1-3 kids. More poorly educated couples encounter the question “is there a reason why I should not have kids?”, decide “no”, and have 2-3 more.
The more women have equal rights the lower the birthrate
The more accessible contraception is the lower the birthrate
The more educated people are the lower the birthrate
The more accessible abortion is the lower the birthrate
See a pattern here between that and conservative policies? People, no matter where they are on the political spectrum, who talk about the need to increase birthrate need to realize that these things are what they’re wishing to see being gone. No matter how easy you make it to have babies, people don’t want enough of them if they have access to education and preventive measures, social democracies with very wide safety nets and social programs and long parental leaves don’t have a birthrate any higher than the one in the USA (in fact, in some cases it’s some of the lowest in the whole world!).
Also: religion
The two align in that more kids both more people to work themselves to death for cheap, more uneducated voters, and more parishioners to pay tithes
Part of it is just money. The trickle up economics of the last 10 yrs has squeezed the possibility out of the working class.
That seems true only if you ignore examples from countries where wealth distribution and social mobility is much better or people who have actual wealth.
People in northern Europe don’t have more babies even though they have the safety nets, social programs and wealth to have them. Rich people don’t have more babies even though they have the means to have them.
People just don’t want enough babies to renew the population if they’re given the choice and other opportunities, it’s that simple.
Rich people do have more babies than poor countrymates: https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-babies-for-the-rich-the-relationship-between-status-and-children-is-changing
It’s a linear relationship for men, and u-shaped for women (middle-income women have fewer kids than poor women, but high-income women have more kids than middle-income women).
Clearly it’s a multifaceted issue, but all other things being equal, more money does make people more likely to have kids.
For men but if you look at women numbers (and that’s the important number at they’re the ones having the kids) it paints a different picture.
Also
https://www.statista.com/statistics/241530/birth-rate-by-family-income-in-the-us/
I said part. What you say is also true. It’s a multi faceted issue.
Other arguments would be climate change and political unrest/uncertainty.
That’s the thing though, there’s nothing that shows that money is any part of the issue. Heck, poor people have more kids than anyone else.
Clearly it’s a multifaceted issue, but all other things being equal (same culture, same applicable social safety net, etc.), rich people do have more babies than poor countrymates: https://ifstudies.org/blog/more-babies-for-the-rich-the-relationship-between-status-and-children-is-changing
It’s a linear relationship for men, and u-shaped for women (middle-income women have fewer kids than poor women, but high-income women have more kids than middle-income women).
And that’s the problem right there. The fewer kids with mommy and daddy issues, the fewer kids these “elders” can “take under their wing.”
Pretty sure the drop in pregnancies under 19 was 50% of the overall drop, not 100%. That’s still huge, but it’s not the whole story.
There’s a worldwide phenomenon of falling birth rates. I doubt it’s even mostly attributable to teen birth rates.
there are lots of reasons that vary country to country but fewer teen pregnancies is a major contributor in the US. linking to this video because the original article has a paywall.
so teen pregnancies are a major factor, but the 20-29 age groups are falling a ton as well.
this video covers falling birthrates globally. the specific timestamp has a handy graph of birthrates per age group. linking the video because the original article has a paywall.
so basically teen pregnancies are a major factor, but the 20-29 age groups are falling a ton as well.
That’s a problem because not only does it lower the “domestic supply of infants”, it also lowers the number of desperately poor kids who enlist in the military right out of high school to escape poverty and get that “free” education.
The cycle of poor is also one of not golden handcuffs, but nickel ones that turn your skin green. It’s a complacent work force. People who don’t engage political activism, join unions (thinking they can’t afford the monthly fees), and keep their heads down for the sake of feeding their kids.
And most working class people doing better than poverty, with kids, turn their main focus on them, on their households. Again with the complacency and keeping your head down, because you have more to lose.
In my country, some segments have up to 9kids abd can’t afford them a proper upbringing nor education. Motivated by race and religion. Unsurprising.
Next they’ll start lining them up to shame them…
🎶Are there any queers in the theatre tonight?
Get 'em up against the wall
Now there’s one in the spotlight, he don’t look right to me
Get him up against the wall
And that one looks Jewish and that one’s a coon
Who let all this riff-raff into the room?
There’s one smoking a joint and another with spots
The whole movie and album is becoming increasingly relevant
I saw the Roger waters version of the concert in 2010, it somehow hits harder than the movie in my eyes.
Shame roger waters kinda went off the deep end.
I made an off-hand comment to someone recently about how they needed to remember that these fascists would make him the first against the wall, and he asked me what that meant… and I became so uncomfortable, realizing how sheltered he was.
I don’t understand how we got here. I don’t understand how people are so… unaware of how easy it is, and how close they are to danger.
We got here because we let billionaires control the flow of information - and by extension, our thought processes. Among the ‘3 kinds of pigs’, remember which is the first kind?
While this is true it’s also personal accountability.
Too many people let their schooling get in the way of their education.
Would you like to see Britannia rule again?
Would you like to send our colored cousins home again?
Oh hey, a consistently relevant topic:
Why is conservative comedy so weird? (The Schneidecker Paradox) - Maggie Mae Fish
Maggie Mae Fish is a treasure. I wish she would make more videos more often.
(If you like her, I also recommend My Friends Call Me Pat.)
gabi belle also has a video on conservative “comedy”. Love her stuff. Speaks from a pov beyond her years.
This guy: “[You] Latinos are invading our country and breeding us white people out of the majority… hahaha, no, no. I kid, I kid! But no really, in all seriousness, you do do that, and it’s a big fucking problem. We need a president who will put a stop to it and kick you all out like the vermin you are. Now laugh you fucking cockroaches. It’s funny because it’s true. We Republicans are truly the masters of comedy. Hurdurdurr.”
Jesus Christ these mother fuckers are twisted. To his credit, I guess, he told this joke to a crowd full of Latinos rather than when only the white folks are around like they usually do. But, less to his credit, he also thought it was ok to say at all, ESPECIALLY TO A CROWD FULL OF LATINOS. The joke depended on their being a lot of Latinos in the crowd and he actually thought, “oh they’ll love this one”. What a completely deluded moron.
Dude turn off the blaze radio, turn off the fox news, go outside, leave the gated neighborhood, and meet some new people. People as different from you as you can manage in your area. Try your hardest to realize that they are also people with their own thoughts, values, and dreams as deep and rich and varied as anyone you have ever met. Truly appreciate that and then come back and fucking apologize to these people for othering them, stereotyping them, and expecting them to laugh at their own mockery. This shit is exhausting.
