• CthulhusIntern [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    39·
    3 days ago

    I don’t believe this is a false flag for the simple fact that if it were, we’d be seeing $500,000 bets on Kalshi that there would be an assassination attempt on Trump.

  • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
    63·
    3 days ago

    “Only one step left before our 3-year-conspiracy is set into motion: The clues. Henry, go make a twitter account and tweet our guy’s name. Nothing else. Don’t wanna give away too much, but just enough that conspiratorially-minded folks can put some pieces together. It is absolutely vital to our plans that you do this.”

    • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
      4·
      3 days ago

      My brain fully recognises this as a first principle for debunking conspiracism. Any kind of plot with multiple people is inherently so complex that either someone leaks the details on 9/11 being an inside job or society is forced to admit that it was an accident. At the same time this is the administration that embraced Qanon to distract from being deeply embedded with Epstein. The times are too weird to not stay agnostic toward any stupid bullshit being plausible. A weird twitter premonition is fun in the Coast to Coast AM way even if it isn’t the villain giving a speech disclosing everything before James Bond shoots him.

      • TheoryofChange [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        5·
        3 days ago

        Any kind of plot with multiple people is inherently so complex that either someone leaks the details on 9/11 being an inside job

        I think this often repeated line is actually completely wrong, and not the reason people should be highly dubious of the 9/11 inside job line. The combination of security culture, compartmentalization of information, in group loyalty (especially when there are rewards for loyalty and penalties for disloyalty) and ideological and social cohesion can allow people to keep things secret quite effectively. Serious communists should study this! I had the privilege to speak to a relative who was a former IRA volunteer, both through his old age and on his deathbed. He talked at length about there internal security and how they have allowed many of the covert activities of his unit to remain unknown to this day.

        I guess my broader point is that intelligence agencies, insurgent groups, organized crime groups etc use “conspiratorial” methods quite routinely, and while proof will eventually emerge about many operations, this may take many decades, not include relevant details etc. And many other operations will never be proven. It is true that as an operation gets larger it gets more difficult to fully conceal, but it is not true that larger conspiracies are impossible to carry out.

        • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          1·
          3 days ago

          Conspiracies definitely exist. They should just be the explanation of last resort unless there’s a hard paper trail because they don’t do anything for me apart from add psychic damage and make me an unreliable narrator. My conspiratorial interpretation of this is that it’s some kind of MK Ultra grooming thing. Super weird series of coincidences, piques the pattern-seeking part of my brain, makes me open to any explanation like I am with Charlie Kirk’s fentanyl overdose. The interpretation that actually benefits me when anything could be true is just to point out that it’s weird and keep my eye on the case regardless of its outcome. It could just as easily be any other hyper-alienated would-be mass shooter and a twitter botnet that exists for whatever reason, but I also don’t see signs of those being the case either so I can’t entertain them more reliably.

      • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        3·
        2 days ago

        Do I think conspiracies are possible? Sure. I just cannot for the life of me imagine what the benefit of this particular action would be, unless the goal was to intentionally leave behind a series of breadcrumbs as if this was an elaborate ARG and I don’t think that’s a sensible theory.

  • Moss [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    61·
    3 days ago

    This is what Deltarune fans lose their minds over. They found tweets from like 2012 with cryptic phrases related to the story, like “lost girl” and “1225”. It’s just random coincidence, unless there’s any proven connections it doesn’t mean anything

        • happybadger [he/him]@hexbear.netOPEnglish
          7·
          3 days ago

          That’s not to put computer scientists on a pedestal or anything. I’m just saying that I’m not stable enough to complete a really technical masters at such a competitive university but I am stable enough to recognise this plot wouldn’t work. There’s some kind of disconnect there which I haven’t yet seen linked to any kind of ideological motivation. Ted Kaczynski was a proper mathematician and he also ended up chasing crude adventurism, but only after being an MK Ultra victim. His really logical (in that technical non-ideological sense) brain was shaped into doing something illogical, like Naruto-charging a full security team is. This is uniquely the dumbest assassination attempt against Trump and look at his competition.

      • KobaCumTribute [she/her]@hexbear.netEnglish
        44·
        3 days ago

        The scene at the annual event in Washington turned chaotic when a man dashed toward the dining area and was met with gunfire. One hotel security guard said she observed the individual with a firearm.

        So did he actually have a gun or fire any shots? Because that sounds like security just started lighting someone up.

        One officer who was wearing a bulletproof vest was shot and was taken to a hospital.

        Probably friendly fire.

        Authorities said he had a shotgun, a handgun and multiple knives.

        He allegedly had a fucking shotgun, a large weapon notoriously bad against bullet proof vests, in the middle of a city, which he managed to walk to a hotel with, enter the hotel, and not raise suspicion until he was going through security? Also “multiple knives”? What the fuck would you need a knife for if you have two guns, let alone multiple knives?

        The story is so fucking weird, especially since we know every official source has to be lying about all or most of it. Like someone going with a long arm to shoot up a place full of armed security in body armor, something they know they’re gonna die doing, doesn’t go ahead and splurge on even a rifle? He opts not to sneak in and instead charges security, without actually shooting until after he’s fired upon first (if he returned fire at all), but he brought the worst possible option for going up against armored security?

        What do you want to bet it’s a cop shotgun one of them grabbed from their trunk, one of the knives is a swiss army knife and the other is a piece of cutlery from the hotel that someone dropped nearby, and he maybe had a handgun at the most if he was armed at all? If this even happened remotely like what they’re saying at all, and it’s not just a big “whoopsy security opened up on a random guy who just happened to be there, better fabricate a justification for appearances sake”.

        • SeizeTheBeans [comrade/them, they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
          10·
          3 days ago

          Yeah but how many Twitter users are there that do absolutely nothing but post a single name. If there are lots of those, then ok, this isn’t all that weird of a coincidence, not worth putting much more thought into. But if accounts that are created and do nothing but make a single post with a single name are rare, then that does mean this is pretty out there, and would put me firmly on happybadger’s side that it’s weird and not easily explained by pure chance.

          • WokePalpatine [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
            9·
            3 days ago

            Only things I could think would be it’s possible the account had thousands of posts with different names and deleted all the ones that didn’t match (not sure if anyone’s verified this its only post ever). It’s possible this is done across thousands of accounts with one post of a name combination.

            Or could spooked up, but I wonder why this attempt and none of the other ones. Unless the guy himself did it for some reason.

  • stink@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
    48·
    3 days ago
    for i in generic_white_guy_first_names.csv:
    for t in generic_white_guy_last_names.csv:
        tweet(i,t)