Any kind of plot with multiple people is inherently so complex that either someone leaks the details on 9/11 being an inside job
I think this often repeated line is actually completely wrong, and not the reason people should be highly dubious of the 9/11 inside job line. The combination of security culture, compartmentalization of information, in group loyalty (especially when there are rewards for loyalty and penalties for disloyalty) and ideological and social cohesion can allow people to keep things secret quite effectively. Serious communists should study this! I had the privilege to speak to a relative who was a former IRA volunteer, both through his old age and on his deathbed. He talked at length about there internal security and how they have allowed many of the covert activities of his unit to remain unknown to this day.
I guess my broader point is that intelligence agencies, insurgent groups, organized crime groups etc use “conspiratorial” methods quite routinely, and while proof will eventually emerge about many operations, this may take many decades, not include relevant details etc. And many other operations will never be proven. It is true that as an operation gets larger it gets more difficult to fully conceal, but it is not true that larger conspiracies are impossible to carry out.
Conspiracies definitely exist. They should just be the explanation of last resort unless there’s a hard paper trail because they don’t do anything for me apart from add psychic damage and make me an unreliable narrator. My conspiratorial interpretation of this is that it’s some kind of MK Ultra grooming thing. Super weird series of coincidences, piques the pattern-seeking part of my brain, makes me open to any explanation like I am with Charlie Kirk’s fentanyl overdose. The interpretation that actually benefits me when anything could be true is just to point out that it’s weird and keep my eye on the case regardless of its outcome. It could just as easily be any other hyper-alienated would-be mass shooter and a twitter botnet that exists for whatever reason, but I also don’t see signs of those being the case either so I can’t entertain them more reliably.
I think this often repeated line is actually completely wrong, and not the reason people should be highly dubious of the 9/11 inside job line. The combination of security culture, compartmentalization of information, in group loyalty (especially when there are rewards for loyalty and penalties for disloyalty) and ideological and social cohesion can allow people to keep things secret quite effectively. Serious communists should study this! I had the privilege to speak to a relative who was a former IRA volunteer, both through his old age and on his deathbed. He talked at length about there internal security and how they have allowed many of the covert activities of his unit to remain unknown to this day.
I guess my broader point is that intelligence agencies, insurgent groups, organized crime groups etc use “conspiratorial” methods quite routinely, and while proof will eventually emerge about many operations, this may take many decades, not include relevant details etc. And many other operations will never be proven. It is true that as an operation gets larger it gets more difficult to fully conceal, but it is not true that larger conspiracies are impossible to carry out.
Conspiracies definitely exist. They should just be the explanation of last resort unless there’s a hard paper trail because they don’t do anything for me apart from add psychic damage and make me an unreliable narrator. My conspiratorial interpretation of this is that it’s some kind of MK Ultra grooming thing. Super weird series of coincidences, piques the pattern-seeking part of my brain, makes me open to any explanation like I am with Charlie Kirk’s fentanyl overdose. The interpretation that actually benefits me when anything could be true is just to point out that it’s weird and keep my eye on the case regardless of its outcome. It could just as easily be any other hyper-alienated would-be mass shooter and a twitter botnet that exists for whatever reason, but I also don’t see signs of those being the case either so I can’t entertain them more reliably.
Fair enough, and I agree that the implied conspiracy here seems extremely far fetched