“Only one step left before our 3-year-conspiracy is set into motion: The clues. Henry, go make a twitter account and tweet our guy’s name. Nothing else. Don’t wanna give away too much, but just enough that conspiratorially-minded folks can put some pieces together. It is absolutely vital to our plans that you do this.”
My brain fully recognises this as a first principle for debunking conspiracism. Any kind of plot with multiple people is inherently so complex that either someone leaks the details on 9/11 being an inside job or society is forced to admit that it was an accident. At the same time this is the administration that embraced Qanon to distract from being deeply embedded with Epstein. The times are too weird to not stay agnostic toward any stupid bullshit being plausible. A weird twitter premonition is fun in the Coast to Coast AM way even if it isn’t the villain giving a speech disclosing everything before James Bond shoots him.
Any kind of plot with multiple people is inherently so complex that either someone leaks the details on 9/11 being an inside job
I think this often repeated line is actually completely wrong, and not the reason people should be highly dubious of the 9/11 inside job line. The combination of security culture, compartmentalization of information, in group loyalty (especially when there are rewards for loyalty and penalties for disloyalty) and ideological and social cohesion can allow people to keep things secret quite effectively. Serious communists should study this! I had the privilege to speak to a relative who was a former IRA volunteer, both through his old age and on his deathbed. He talked at length about there internal security and how they have allowed many of the covert activities of his unit to remain unknown to this day.
I guess my broader point is that intelligence agencies, insurgent groups, organized crime groups etc use “conspiratorial” methods quite routinely, and while proof will eventually emerge about many operations, this may take many decades, not include relevant details etc. And many other operations will never be proven. It is true that as an operation gets larger it gets more difficult to fully conceal, but it is not true that larger conspiracies are impossible to carry out.
Conspiracies definitely exist. They should just be the explanation of last resort unless there’s a hard paper trail because they don’t do anything for me apart from add psychic damage and make me an unreliable narrator. My conspiratorial interpretation of this is that it’s some kind of MK Ultra grooming thing. Super weird series of coincidences, piques the pattern-seeking part of my brain, makes me open to any explanation like I am with Charlie Kirk’s fentanyl overdose. The interpretation that actually benefits me when anything could be true is just to point out that it’s weird and keep my eye on the case regardless of its outcome. It could just as easily be any other hyper-alienated would-be mass shooter and a twitter botnet that exists for whatever reason, but I also don’t see signs of those being the case either so I can’t entertain them more reliably.
Do I think conspiracies are possible? Sure. I just cannot for the life of me imagine what the benefit of this particular action would be, unless the goal was to intentionally leave behind a series of breadcrumbs as if this was an elaborate ARG and I don’t think that’s a sensible theory.
“Only one step left before our 3-year-conspiracy is set into motion: The clues. Henry, go make a twitter account and tweet our guy’s name. Nothing else. Don’t wanna give away too much, but just enough that conspiratorially-minded folks can put some pieces together. It is absolutely vital to our plans that you do this.”
My brain fully recognises this as a first principle for debunking conspiracism. Any kind of plot with multiple people is inherently so complex that either someone leaks the details on 9/11 being an inside job or society is forced to admit that it was an accident. At the same time this is the administration that embraced Qanon to distract from being deeply embedded with Epstein. The times are too weird to not stay agnostic toward any stupid bullshit being plausible. A weird twitter premonition is fun in the Coast to Coast AM way even if it isn’t the villain giving a speech disclosing everything before James Bond shoots him.
I think this often repeated line is actually completely wrong, and not the reason people should be highly dubious of the 9/11 inside job line. The combination of security culture, compartmentalization of information, in group loyalty (especially when there are rewards for loyalty and penalties for disloyalty) and ideological and social cohesion can allow people to keep things secret quite effectively. Serious communists should study this! I had the privilege to speak to a relative who was a former IRA volunteer, both through his old age and on his deathbed. He talked at length about there internal security and how they have allowed many of the covert activities of his unit to remain unknown to this day.
I guess my broader point is that intelligence agencies, insurgent groups, organized crime groups etc use “conspiratorial” methods quite routinely, and while proof will eventually emerge about many operations, this may take many decades, not include relevant details etc. And many other operations will never be proven. It is true that as an operation gets larger it gets more difficult to fully conceal, but it is not true that larger conspiracies are impossible to carry out.
Conspiracies definitely exist. They should just be the explanation of last resort unless there’s a hard paper trail because they don’t do anything for me apart from add psychic damage and make me an unreliable narrator. My conspiratorial interpretation of this is that it’s some kind of MK Ultra grooming thing. Super weird series of coincidences, piques the pattern-seeking part of my brain, makes me open to any explanation like I am with Charlie Kirk’s fentanyl overdose. The interpretation that actually benefits me when anything could be true is just to point out that it’s weird and keep my eye on the case regardless of its outcome. It could just as easily be any other hyper-alienated would-be mass shooter and a twitter botnet that exists for whatever reason, but I also don’t see signs of those being the case either so I can’t entertain them more reliably.
Fair enough, and I agree that the implied conspiracy here seems extremely far fetched
Do I think conspiracies are possible? Sure. I just cannot for the life of me imagine what the benefit of this particular action would be, unless the goal was to intentionally leave behind a series of breadcrumbs as if this was an elaborate ARG and I don’t think that’s a sensible theory.