theturtlemoves [he/him]

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  • Steban: The theorists Puncher and Wattmann — not infra-materialists, but theorists nonetheless — say that communism is a secular version of Perikarnassian theology, that it replaces faith in the divine with faith in humanity’s future … I have to say, I’ve never entirely understood what they meant, but I think maybe the answer is in there, somewhere.

    You: Wait, you’re saying communism is some kind of religion?

    Steban: Only in this very specific sense. Communism doesn’t dangle any promises of eternal bliss or reward. The only promise it offers is that the future can be better than the past.



  • In Buddhist teachings, desire leads to suffering. For example, the desire for wealth may lead one to do dangerous things, hurting themself, or to exploit others, causing them suffering. So the aim of Buddhism is to transcend desire by following the ‘Eightfold Path’ (right thought, right action, etc.). When desire has been controlled, one will ‘want’ nothing, and can escape ‘samsara’ (wordly pressures; often compared to a wheel since it involves cycles of action and reaction, cause and effect) to reach ‘nirvana’ (a state of calm, bliss, peace, etc.). The meme is pointing out that one who truly wants nothing will also not want social media recognition for it.





  • That’s what I always disliked about Eastern philosophy, how it doesn’t seem to ever actually do anything and tries to think up the most clever tricks of language instead.

    I actually like Chinese philosophy, particularly Confucianism, because of how materialistic it is. It’s about running a state and keeping people from killing each other, while a lot of Greek philosophy is about the nature of the self yada yada.

    The development of the various schools, and their support bases, is also interesting from a historical materialist perspective. You have the Confucians (nerds), who look at a world in war and destruction, and say ‘this suffering is because of lack of knowledge. If we educate everyone to follow rules, respect their superiors and protect those below them, there will be peace. So we must fund education and research, and thoroughly educate emperors and officers.’

    Then the Mohists, who come from the working classes, say ‘have you seen these snobs? They exploit us all the time and would start a war if it benefits them, since it’ll be us dying for them. So we need to train weaker groups to resist the strong, and do away with useless luxuries like rituals and elaborate musical performances’.

    The Legalists (civil servants) attack the Confucians from another angle, pointing out that statecraft is not as black and white as the Confucians think, and that the only quality on which a public servant should be judged is the ability to get things done. ‘It does not matter if the cat is black or white, as long as it catches mice.’

    Finally you have the Taoists, who were originally mystics, but whose teaching that government should interfere as little as possible won them the support of the merchants. Absolutely fascinating how each class came up with its own philosophical tradition according to its material interests.