In all seriousness, have you ever met a woman who “just” had an abortion? Without any internal struggle? Who “just” made an appointment, walked in, walked out? Not scared of how close it was to an life altering event for the woman? With not difficult feelings to the possible child? “Just” another day in her life?
Anyone?
I just don’t believe that those women exist in large numbers but it feels like they think that is what every abortion is.
Ps: his example feels weirdly specific to me.
There’s a bad movie about God talking a woman out of an abortion. In that movie, there is a side character who is implied to be at the abortion clinic regularly and treats abortion casually, just like getting a haircut. The people who wrote that movie think that’s what most people who get abortions are like
I have. It was a friend who already had two kids, didn’t want (or couldn’t raise) more. She arranged the procedure as soon as she found she was pregnant again. Went to the appointment, got the embryo removed and that was all.
And it was ok, it was her decision (supported by her partner by the way) and nobody should have a shit to say about that.
Remember when Republicans made up the idea of “partial birth abortion” and (rather successfully) used to to convince people that there were women out there who purposely waited until they were in fucking labor to arbitrarily decide to abort?
Pisses me off how successful that was.
I read on Wikipedia today that the guy who made Project 2025, claimed without evidence that the left wants to make it legal to kill babies three days after birth.
Like why would a woman possibly choose to carry a baby to term and then kill it? If you want an abortion, youre gonna get it as soon as possible. They think the left just has a fetish for baby murder, don’t they?
The propaganda machine has always been producing.
Even if that’s the case, it’s none of their fucking business?
I am 100% with you but I just wonder wtf they think.
These people are often out of touch and think this is just contraception with murder included.
Also the 12 year old is supposed to have the child in secrecy on his cult compound or what? Is he the dad and/or grandpa what’s going on here?
In all my years I’ve only met one woman that didn’t really seem to care. It was someone I worked with at the time, early 2000s. When we were work friends she informed me she had just gotten her 6th procedure. At the time I was dating a girl who had one done as a teen and it deeply impacted her. So the idea of getting a 6th and just acting like it wasn’t a big deal really shocked me. So those people the right are talking about do exist in small quantities. It’s also none of my business what those people do with their bodies. However I can’t help but ask at what point do you seek alternative contraceptive methods? Shit even the old pull out method is highly effective if you do it right.
I’m sure after the fifth one you grow more desensitized.
Why is there a pregnant 12 year old girl where you’re standing brilyn?
You must not understand National Security.
they care more about the abortion because if she doesn’t carry it to term, they’ll have one less child to rape.
10-1 he’s had to drive some 12 year old across state lines to get his baby out of her.
“hey fuckface” lands better than “I’m sorry” Steve is a better human than I.
Is there any kind of murder other than a vicious murder?
There’s murder-kabobs, murder creole, murder gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There’s pineapple murder, lemon murder, coconut murder, pepper murder, murder soup, murder stew, murder salad, murder and potatoes, murder burger, murder sandwich. That… that’s about it"
^ this fella’s murder game
This reads like Monty Python’s Spam sketch.
It’s Bubba’s shrimp monologue from Forrest Gump.
Ooh, do you by chance have a pineapple upside-down murder? That would really hit the spot.
There’s ways to truly derive suffering from someone who is wholly deserving. I won’t say what you do.
Yeah they tried to do the child defense thing they often do with trans kids. But getting raped, carrying a child at 12 years old, and giving birth sounds infinitely worse then having an abortion.
Translation: My 12 year old baby mamma is trying to leave me, but that baby is mine!
Willing to bet brllyrrlly-whatever-the-fuck is also opposed to any kind of birth control or sex education that helps prevent 12 year olds getting pregnant.
Why is the pregnant child traveling away from where he’s standing specifically?
I feel like they’re both missing the point. Obviously Captain Pedo is totally down with pregnant tweens, but Hofstetter got whooshed by the fact that the father is probably also a 12 year old, and that the possible involvement of rape should have zero bearing on whether or not she should have safe access to abortions. Hell, at 12 they should be mandatory.
the fact that the father is probably also a 12 year old
Please don’t spread misinformation, your “fact” is flat-out wrong.
In fact, the father is probably much older… and very often 20+
Neither of you are dropping facts. You’re both talking about hypotheticals and not accounting for facts at all.
This data is from the 90s. But here’s some facts.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10227344/
Adult fathers, responsible for 26.7% of births to very young adolescents, were a mean of 8.8 years older than the mother. The risk factors for adult compared to adolescent paternity were as follows: father’s educational attainment of at least 3 years below that considered adequate for his age [adjusted odds ratio (AOR) = 8.34], father’s (AOR = 2.46) or mother’s (AOR = 1.36) educational attainment 1-2 years below that considered adequate for their age, mother’s birthplace outside the United States (AOR = 3.12), and father’s Hispanic ethnicity (AOR = 1.60) or African-American race (AOR = 1.50).
Thank you, better than idiots treating “probably” as fact. Smdh
Yeah, jeez, why wont you all just obey the correct side of this debate, and either A) let rapists choose the mothers of their offspring (like “the Right” want), or B) murder babies viciously (like “the Left” want), whichever side it is that’s the correct side to your distracted polarised groupthink?
Good job obeying the call for fallaciously avoiding nuance though.
Whichever side, keep underclassing the young though. Those sub-humans don’t deserve the right to consent.
… /s, /s, /s!!! >:(
… Oh for the call for education and naunce, advocacy of raising awareness not falling for divisive psyops; not accepting the invite to groupthink, to rise up from between the lines of my exasperation at this old exercise of flogging a dead horse.
… I wonder what else is going on in the world while we’re being prompted to “look over here” with this divisive sensational attention-hijacking mutual feedback loop terror distraction of what “they” are doing to our children, again.
They showed what their priorities are and it’s absolutely disgusting.
Showed? It’s still going on.
Trump is protecting pedophiles. The same Trump that raped kids.
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“Two wrongs don’t make a right.”
Would be what they would say, and is in no way an argument that I would make.
Why does he even pick the case of a 12-year hold pregnant person ? Isn’t that like, the case were almost everyone can agree that abortion makes even more sense than usual ? Have i missed that somehow conservatives consider it to be worse than when adult people abort ?
At this point, I think a decent chunk of them are pedophiles with breeding fetishes who get off on the idea of impregnating children.
makes even more sense than usual
You’re talking about the all-or-nothing, absolute rule, zero-sum game gang, here. The concept of nuance is so far removed from the conservative headspace, it may as well be science fiction.
Some conservatives at least see some nuance. My grandmother is against abortion but okay with it in cases where the baby would have died anyway. She also agrees that it’s fucked up to punish women for having miscarriages.
I think their idea here is that 12 year olds should be in school instead of sneaking around getting abortions. Which makes sense if you don’t care about context or lack basic humanity
Well, I can agree that a 12 year old shouldn’t have to get an abortion. Because they shouldn’t be pregnant in the first place.
12 year olds should be in school instead of sneaking around getting abortions.
Absolutely! That’s why sex education, and talking about consent and safety are ao important.
An 12 year old needing an abortion is such a tragedy, it should be prevented. But if it comes to that, if it is needed, she should have access to safe medical care.
I know when I was 12 everyone was getting abortions. It was just the cool thing to do. Some girls would get together and have sleepover abortion parties. I went and got one myself just to see what all the fuss was about. Of course as a guy I got some pushback initially, but eventually I joined the cool crowd
No. No abortion makes sense to them (except their own wives’) when they use it as justification to remove agency and bodily autonomy from women.
except their own wives’
You dispelled mistress.
Edit: dispelled should be misspelled :)
Is that was a wizard does when his wife catches him cheating?
Some of us out here just using mage hand like a respectable partner…
I was so confused by your comment lol my brain just did not see the typo
They pay their mistresses to get abortions.
Most 12 year olds would risk death to give birth, so yes, most people would agree that both on the grounds that it’s a raped child and on the grounds that the pregnancy could be fatal to the mother.
Fatal to the mother is just a perk of pregnancy according to the Christians who hold life to be sacred.
It’s implied in their text that the 12-year old girl is the child of leftists and because of that is already sexually active. Since the left is sex positive that obviously means they’re teaching their kids to be deviants by a very young age. Obviously daughter of proper right wing Christian Americans would never do that because she blah, blah, blah.
I thought it meant that she was a child of conservative parents and sneaking out without their knowledge.
Exactly, those liberal woke parents would otherwise persuade and or force her to have an abortion just because
Even that’s dumb because I grew up hearing that the Catholic girls are the ones you want to hook up with.
Maybe where they live a 12 year old girl can be expected to drive? So getting to a medical center two hours away is easy and convenient? and the nearest medical center is 2 hours away
She needs to go 2 hours away because the state she lives in has outlawed abortions.
It says “travel” which can mean by foot, bike, hitchhiking, zeppelin, the list goes on and on
Right. So it’s ok for a 12 year old pregnant girl to walk two hours to a medical center by themselves? No matter how correct and complete you try to be, there’s all kinds of wrong with this picture
there’s all kinds of wrong with this picture
True but a school girl taking the bus just isn’t that bad. I’m not justifying anything else about it.
No, what you missed is that these people are all pedophiles, and part of their weird Christian nationalism is that they hate women having agency, so they need to be impregnating them before that happens.
Maybe it’s meant to be extra edgy? This isn’t the tone you use when you try to convince people who aren’t already on your side.
Brilyn Hollyhand is supposed to be the replacement Charlie Kirk. The same billionaires are sponsoring him, but he’s just not catching on. Face is too big.
Mf sounds like a character from the hobbit
Charlie who?
A relative of Captain Kirk … maybe.
This Captain Kirk?
“That’s Captain Kirk” – Miles Obrien.
Something cork
Wait, not to be a total asshole about someone’s name but I thought the -lyn suffix was pretty feminine? This man was set up to fail by his parents.
One of the big fads about 20 years ago or so was portmanteaus of parent’s names. So, for instance, Ashley and Richard would give birth to Richley. I have no idea how old this person is but maybe something like that happened here?
Riley
Or Asshard
Riley is an already existing name, the fad was about coming up with a new name. But I could totally see Ashard.
Yeah but what about Asshard
Maybe he’s trans?
Nah, don’t blame that shit on us.
I thought about that response, then remembered that Caitlin Jenner exists. So it is at least possible for a trans person to be a hateful MAGA bigot, even if it’s unlikely.
Trans people can be hateful all on their own, but there is a troubling tendency I’ve noticed to paint all loathsome political figures as secretly queer. By contrast it’s rare to see a queer person’s misbehavior used to insinuate they’re actually cis and straight. I think it’s important to consider the way that attitude steers people towards thinking of queer people as deceptive or more prone to criminal behavior, consciously or not.
there is a troubling tendency I’ve noticed to paint all loathsome political figures as secretly queer. By contrast it’s rare to see a queer person’s misbehavior used to insinuate they’re actually cis and straight.
I think you’re taking this differently than it’s usual intention.
Talking about how hateful conservatives are secretly queer isn’t actually about the queerness at all. It’s about them hiding that fact, often because of religious indoctrination and their specific social circle of hatred to anything non-cis. So they in turn hate themselves and feel the need to hide that and take the hatred out on others because they’re not “allowed” to be themselves, so no one else should either.
The fact that there are so many examples of this just helps reinforce the assumption that these shitty people do have an underlying social pressure causing their behavior. Sort of the exact opposite of what you describe.
At least that’s always been the way I’ve taken those discussions. Because the alternative is just they are a shitty excuse for a human being.
The people seeing queers as something like deceptive are those same pieces of shit that are hiding in the first place, the same projection they use for everything else in their life.
We can only hope he has the same commitment as Kirk and gets “acceptably” raped
