Imagine you’re a key.
Now imagine you’re in a lock- a lock that hurts you as a big hand turns and jiggles you around.
A big hand that cannot hear you scream.
And what’s that hand trying to open? That’s right:
It’s The Scary Door
maaaaaaan they should’ve done a Scary Door spinoff series instead of at least two of the revivals
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What is she trying to say? Genuinely.
The usual lib thing of “Imagine a hypothetical where every bit of relevant information was different than reality. Your position doesn’t look so good in that hypothetical now, does it?”
It’s kind of wild how much of neoliberal ideology relies on hypotheticals.
Just pure idealism
Stalin supported the idea of a Jewish state, which makes him the same as Killary Killton
Which if she were Israeli, means that the Ukrainian famine of the 30’s was intentional on behalf of Israeli Hillary Stalin
Therefore checkmate commies!
It is like freeform jazz with words. The point is the feeling it created. This is pure shallow liberalism distilled
It is like freeform jazz with words.
Sure, but consider for a moment:
Jazz is sick and cool, while this tweet fucking sucks shit
It’s all about the points she didn’t make dude
no no, it’s simple. imagine you’re a grain of rice, and you fall out of the kettle before being boiled. now imagine the rest of the rice is israel, doesnt sound so realistic now??
ha didnt think soI think she’s accusing leftists of being reflexively anti American and hypocritical of oppression that comes from non NATO countries. Or maybe she’s saying leftists are antisemitic because “if Stalin was Jewish they’d call it genocide.” But it’s still incomprehensible word soup.
I don’t even understand what the fuck she’s trying to say. It’s just nonsense
Imagine Stalin was Hillary and also an Israeli. Stalin doesn’t sound so good now huh tankie?
Imagine Stalin and Stalin’s husband were associated with a very long list of people who died under mysterious circumstances
She’s basically been in a constant state of mental breakdown since she literally had Hillary Clinton in her home and received so much backlash from her fanbase she went full Ethan Klein and blamed Hasan for creating ‘transphobic’ (i.e. they didn’t agree with her) hate (i.e. they criticized the things she said and did) mobs (i.e. the 90% of her audience that no longer watches her content).
So she thinks, by saying Stalin (someone she believes her ‘haters’ (again 90% former fans) likes) is Hillary Clinton (again the reason she went from 7 figure views to getting barely 6 figures on a viral video) then she’ll magically be right and will have totally dunked on all those transphobic* tankies* that hate her for literally hosting a right-wing actually transphobic war criminal pedophile enabler in her own home.
Even 2020 era contrapoints would make a take down video on 2026 contrapoints, and she was pretty liberal at that point compared to where she started.
love, like, or hate him (i am ambivalent) Hasan seems like a shining role model for how a cis male should be when it comes to trans people
transphobic would be the furthest thing from my mind when it comes to him
contra is really doubling and tripling down on everything ridiculous she has physically isolated herself to the point where i think it’s really fucking with her head
transphobic’ (i.e. they didn’t agree with her) hate (i.e. they criticized the things she said and did) mobs (i.e. the 90% of her audience that no longer watches her content).
Natalie is TC69 confirmed?
Please everyone log of that website I’m begging you
The Slop Must Flow
We need more ethically sourced slop
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Thanks, I needed that rn
Ok but think that Stalin in those photos was actually Hilary Clinton, those pics arent that cool now huh?
Wth
Why would you do that wtf
you forgot to specify ‘log out’ or ‘log in’
What if the world was made of pudding, Natalie?
Then we’d all be drowning in a chocolate mudslide or vanilla avalanche or pistachio something
Way to go, you’ve doomed the human species!
Don’t think so fondly of chocolate mudslide now do you???
If Stalin was made of pudding he wouldn’t taste very good. Checkmate tankies
The Israel shit isn’t wrong, I do think it’s one of Stalin’s greatest mistakes
It’s also like, one of the most confusing policies that ever occurred. There’s no explanation for why the USSR took that position, and we know that the communists viewed zionism as a far right ideology at the time.
They were doing something but we have zero documentation about what it was and then they U-Turned pretty fast too.
It is one of the most curious historical questions that remains unanswered. Why did they take that position? What did they think they were getting out of it?
At the time Israel was controlled by the Mapai party (socialist/“labor Zionist”) with Mapam party in second (Marxist Leninist). At the time it appeared Zionism would be a socialist force to break open the Franco-British imperial project middle east. In retrospect it was a foolish bet that came at the expense of Palestinians, but at the time the Arab world was largely still under colonial rule.
Pure speculation on my part, but could it have been some sort of appeasement? Trying to work with the western powers to avoid escalating tensions? But when the USSR saw that the west was going to be escalating with them anyway they realised that policy wouldn’t work.
I have no idea. We can only speculate. We have literally zero documentation about it to work from. I’ve never seen a single thing and I’ve looked.
This is a complete contrast because even before the Russian revolution was successful Stalin was writing about how the zionist movement was far right reactionary. He knew exactly what it was decades beforehand.
[1] Zionism – A reactionary nationalist trend of the Jewish bourgeoisie, which had followers along the intellectuals and the more backward sections of the Jewish workers. The Zionists endeavoured to isolate the Jewish working-class masses from the general struggle of the proletariat.
This is the very first note in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question”.
So given that he knew what it was, there must have been some other strategy going into these decisions. But what they were we just don’t know. I will stay deeply curious about this shit until some documents about it are eventually discovered.
Yes unfortunately there are only speculations.
And you’re completely right that zionism has been thorn in the back of communism in Russia literally since there even was communism in Russia, they constantly pushed to the right and tried to wreck party by drawing Jewish workers from it. So it might be so that USSR seen the chance to get rid of them.
Another possible reasons i can think of:
- WW2 just ended and world was in outrage over fresh info about holocaust. Opposing creation of “Jewish state” would create instant outrage towards USSR. And Israel would have been created anyway, it was basically 95% on USA and UK anyway. Then USSR would be put into yet another nasty position of choosing between “Jews are running away from USSR” or “USSR is the prison for Jews”
- Israel was iirc created based on UN charter, again USSR was invested in creation of UN, it wouldn’t wanted to torpedo it right at start. Also remember it was before the ultimate shift in 1949 that put an end to the illusion western powers are not hostile to USSR and that it is possible to maintain good will relations with them.
Ultimately they maybe hoped to maintain some control over it but alas.
Still i see this issue as choosing between bad or worse, it would be only avoidable by creating Jewish state in Germany, but western powers would absolutely never agree to that. As for creating it in USSR, the autonomous oblast existed back then already and still exist but zionist have zero interest in it.
Labour Zionism got very popular during the early days of israel and the USSR in a geopolitical play saw that if they supported them they could get an ally in the middle east to fight the American-Saudi alliance
Obviously this didnt happen, but thats why they took that position
I know all of this video but the fact remains there’s no documentation, from what I have seen. The idea that it was a play is essentially just speculation. It’s the most likely but without evidence it’s still fairly mysterious.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
I just assume it was some weird geopolitical play to get back at the UK somehow.
Yeah, but it’s a very weird gotcha because she’s using it to insinuate that Stalin was responsible for a famine, but because he was being antisemitic or something
It’s hard to tell, it’s one of the rare times where someone is being disingenuous but in a way where I don’t think even they know what the hell they’re trying to say
I think it means: “Stalin bad and Hillary Clinton not bad, tankies bad, I am very intelligent, but desperate for attention, please notice me, I thrive on meaningless internet drama.”
Oh yeah the original point is bad but kkkontra’s is incomprehensible
If Clinton is the liberals version of the leftist ultimate political evil, and the most gready and expansionist people a liberal could imagine a leftist could think of is the Israelis, then this makes complete sense.
Stalin is total evil.
The Soviets were imperialist and colonialist by nature.
This is the liberal perspective.
They believe leftists think Hillary is the ultimate evil (Which the liberal doesn’t).
They believe leftists think that Israelis (and from the liberals perspective Jews as well probably) are power hungery authoritarians doing a imperialism and colonialism against Palestine (Which the liberal knows Israel as the most moral place on earth)
This framing according to the liberal theoretically makes the leftist go “oooooooh” when they say the magic words “Hold the door”. And snap the leftist out of their totalitarian ways.
“You see!” The liberal says smugly, “it was genocide all along!” And then everyone claps, and the leftist weeps for the genocide of Ukraine and maybe even the Uyghurs.
Step 1: Acquire underpants
Step 2: ???
Step 3: Everyone is a liberal
I usually try to explain it like this: picture Natalie Wynn as Natalie Wynn. Now, imagine she’s making a good point. Doesn’t look so much like she’s making a pointless point now, does it?
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Yeah this is good and should be the site wide party line on kkkontrapoints
We literally have anti-communist sources saying how much food was destroyed by kulaks. They just blamed the kulaks’ actions on the Soviet government and not, you know, the fucking monsters who slaughtered thousands of animals before leaving the corpses to rot, torched grain silos, torched fields, killed some of their neighbors, then fled the country to become collaborators with the Axis Powers.
Stalin as Hillary makes absolutely no sense; Stalin actually was a leader of a global superpower.
Hillary wasn’t even a leader but she still have blood of millions on her hands, no wonder libs like her.
What the fuck does that even mean???
Nothing, they’re so far up their own ass thinking they are “above” this that they’re clipping past the “ha ha jokes on you I was only pretending to be a fool” threshold and then we’ll really be podracing
It means that Natalie is either on too many pills or not enough pills
Imagine Obama is JK Rowling and she’s North Korean. Still think he bombed the MSF hospital by mistake?
the internet was a mistake. I’m not so naive as to think that takes like this are a product of an internet connected society, but I sure as fuck wouldn’t have to know about this tweet and allow it to take up some storage in the little bit of brains i have that still function.
