• gerryflap@feddit.nl
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    21 hours ago

    Yesterday I was at a rave with all-gender restrooms. Just as big bathroom predicted it was total mayhem. People queueing, making smalltalk, doing the things people do at the bathroom. I’m so thankful big bathroom protects us from this madness /s

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    In the US at least, the women’s restrooms used to say “colored”

    The reason we still have gendered bathrooms is because we didn’t change building codes for bathrooms and water fountains after segregation.

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      I mean…you are more right than you think.

      Bathroom fixture manufacturers created a massive marketing/propaganda campaign around the idea of Hygiene, and the idea that its better for your health and safety, simply because they wanted to sell more fixtures…and the way to do that was to get more houses built with indoor plumbing facilities, because in the era before this… a solid chunk of the population still used outhouses, and bathed in portable tubs they filled with water heated up one pot at a time on a stove once every few weeks… if that. and because filling the tub was so much work, the whole family washed in it, without changing the water… usually the husband first, then the mother, then the kids in order of age got to bath in the bouillabaisse of mom and dads filth.

      You’d be gobsmacked how many things like that are the result of marketing.

      Milk being essential for bone health? Another marketing gimmick, from the dairy industry.

      Diamonds are essential for proposals/weddings? Another marketing gimmick, from the diamond cartels.

      and more.

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        I knew about diamonds and I believe about milk.

        But you can pry indoor plumbing and hot water heaters from my cold dead hands. Sometimes the marketing works because it’s a good idea lol

        • A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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          Wasnt arguing that you should get rid of them :p

          Just pointing out the fact that you only care about them, ultimately, because of a very successful advertising campaign to sell more fixtures.

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        Deodorant was first marketed to immigrants and that’s how it took hold. People mildly-to-seriously stank for all of human history and it just was, perfumes have always been a market too. But then someone was like “but what if we made these folks feel even more ostracized to sell them a solution”

        And this began the “your body is fucking disgusting” cycle that now encourages us to literally coat ourselves head-to-toe in (eczema to cancer causing) chemical deodorants. Great.

        • ℛ𝒶𝓋ℯ𝓃@pawb.social
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          Okay but like, the human body does in fact suck in many ways, one of those being that we’re naturally filthy as fuck.

          It’s worth noting that the above is, of course, an opinion. I find human stench repulsive. Many do. Some don’t. But regardless, I don’t think less of a person or culture for not using or having access to the typical hot water + exfoliating + soap + deodorant + scent + moisturizer method that western culture holds so dear. I couldn’t do without it. And yes I’m slightly grossed out as a natural reaction when people don’t use it. But I don’t think "that uncultured savage pig doesn’t bathe* in that situation, that would just be horrible. Unfortunately many do think that way, and I agree that that kind of hostile, accusatory thinking is likely partially due to western marketing.

          I personally am a transhumanist in philosophy. I think that if we can make a way to make the human body some radiant vessel that would have been worshipped as a goddess across most of human history, that such an endeavor is worth while. But many look down on others when such standards become normalized. That is the key difference: another main tenant of transhuman philosophy is the idea of bodily autonomy. You inhabit the vessel you want, whether bathed or not.

          And I agree that marketing has, in fact, been instrumental in pushing that “your body is fucking disgusting” idea onto others so heavily. Capitalism capitalizes best on making people feel lower or less important without a product.

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          Deodorant and I have never really spent much time together - perhaps because I live in a mild climate and don’t do much sports - but god damn do I love a hot shower.

    • JeremyHuntQW12@lemmy.world
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      Public restrooms were campaigned for by suffragettes because women were unable to leave their homes for any period without them. Men would just wee against a fence.

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        That’s the Victorian era for you. But for many earlier centuries women went out all the time to take care of various errands, so they must have had some form of acceptable public peeing, even if it’s not written down for us to study. Maybe they just gathered up their skirts and squatted behind a designated bush. Definitely sounds like the kind of thing Queen Victoria would have suppressed.

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        Closest one to Vatican is like 10 min drive or 40-ish min walk. It’s most likely forbidden to shit there plus it’s also unlikely that he makes the trip every time he needs to go. They might have a secret forest hidden underneath the Vatican, however. We may never know.

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    When I was in college, it was funny how the engineering building only had one restroom per floor - they were all mens until like the 70’s, cuz wommin can’t be engineers of course.

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    This is why i don’t understand why bathroom companies aren’t creating more genders in order to create more bathrooms.

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      But they have to be careful because otherwise people might realize it’s cheaper and easier to just label bathrooms with “sitting” and “sitting+standing”.

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      I used to work at a gas station. I’d have to clean the bathrooms once per shift.

      The mens bathroom? A couple of wet spots next to the toilet. I always attributed this to the guys who end up getting multiple streams, and don’t know what to do.

      The womens bathroom? Look. I know women bleed once a month. I get it. But ladies, what the fuck are you doing in the gas station bathrooms??? Are you having coat hanger abortions??? Is it like a woman thing to all contribute to one communal blood pool? There is no way these nightly horror scenes all came from one person unless they had a recently chopped off limb! Is Freddie Kruger attacking you ladies while you’re pooping? I have never figured out what the womens bathroom experience is, but it has SHATTERED any illusion to me that women are cleaner/neater than men. We may leave dirty laundry around the house for days, but you gals have an exorcism as you toot.

      See, this is why everyone says girls don’t poop. They DON’T poop. They disembowel.

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        Played a show in Cambridge, MA back in 2007. After the show I needed to take a shit so they told me to use the women’s room since the men’s room was only urinals.

        Women’s room toilet had soft serve instead of a toilet seat. Someone literally just shit on top of the toilet. I chalked it up to a Massachusetts thing and moved to Colorado.