• maynarkh@feddit.nl
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    8 months ago

    Maybe let people enjoy their hobbies? Is belittling other people for being enthusiastic about something the new chic?

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      Literally. You can say that shit about anything. Like omg a lil researcher. We’ll have fun with your beakers lil guy! Keep mixing stuff 🙃

      Girls who like to knit are funny like “look at me I can make clothes out of string!” Yup you sure can lil one!

      Ugh.

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      Nah, it’s been this way forever. Only, it used to be reserved for nerds and geeks enjoying d&d, comics, and whatever else wasn’t cool at the time. Society’s just at a point now where the jocks aren’t the defacto popular kids so their hobbies are fair game for ridicule now too.

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      I def agree that no one should knock a (harmless) hobbie, but I didn’t read the post as being mean. My reading was more that it’s genuinely thinking it’s cute that some guys get so excited about sports. At least, it’s better than the “ugh all men care about is sports” kind of angle.

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      No one is trying to keep anyone from enjoying things here? This is clearly just a funny joke and if it genuinely offends you then you’re the one who needs to let people enjoy things.

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        I admit I don’t get the joke. I just see people smugly belittling others for their hobbies. Where is the joke? What’s to be laughed at? If anything, this makes me sad that people are so antisocial and unempathetic that they feel like they need to tear others down to feel happy.

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          It s like catharsis, when the bullied turn the tables and get a go at bullying the stereotypical bullies.

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            That’s not wisdom. Those are gross generalizations for idiots and assholes to feel smug about themselves.

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            Small people talk about other people

            And this is not talking about other people?

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              No. The point of the idea was to discuss ideas (and perhaps dissuade others from engaging in whatever was happening in OP’s thread) – essentially, advising others to ignore such comments when they encounter them in social media.

              We’re already above the lowest level of name-calling by just talking about it, though I think a few people did respond with insults.

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            They are little implying they are acting like a child for wearing a jersey with that whole “lil guy” statement. It’s absolutely and obviously belittling them. I can’t believe anyone can’t see it.

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      You can run defense for football peeps all you want but football peeps live for shitting on people who don’t football

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      Did that hit home? If you can’t be made fun of, you’re the bad guy.

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      This is satire. Sports enthusiasts are mainstream, The mainstream is notorious for looking down on other people’s hobbies being weird or not mainstream. Liking a sport is something almost everybody does. This is the little guy punching at the big guy, and that’s why it’s funny.

      As soon as people stop shaming D&D players and furries and other niche interests, this sort of retaliatory satire will vanish.

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        You give an example of why one way might be more harmful than the other, but not why we can’t just allow people to enjoy their interests in peace.

        You are basically saying “well, it’s okay to act like asshole to everyone who likes sports because some people who like sports are assholes to other people!”

        It’s a dumb point, especially if you see the harm in it yet still try to justify it.

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          Punching up highlights the ongoing problems of people punching down. The enlightened centrism approach of “can’t we all just get along” has never worked. Suffering silently has never worked.

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                Can you describe how thats punching up? Because I don’t see it. Are all strikes now “punching up”?

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                  … Yes?

                  In a situation with two groups with a significant power differential, the group with less power is “down” and the group with more power is “up”. Punching up is exactly what it sounds like, given that situation.

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        That attitude isn’t going to make anything better. Two wrongs don’t make a right. Generalizing all sports people as bullies is just as bad as picking on any other group for their hobbies. I say this as someone who doesn’t give a shit about sports and was bullied quite a lot.

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      That’s called being cool and has been around my whole life

      Edit: Either people are unaware of social conventions or think I am endorsing them

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      You’ve obviously never lived where sports is a religion. These are not people “enjoying hobbies”. These are frightened men screaming at children to run in a circle faster.

      If they were “enjoying it” they would smile more. Look at all the smiles on the sidelines there. Look at 'em. Are there any? Sometimes. But not that often. Mostly it’s scowling and looking VRY SRS

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        I grew up in a place where some football matches warranted a national emergency. Football hooligans were also pivotal in changing the government for the worse in the past 20 years. I know that football can be toxic. Moreover, I hated the over-emphasis of football in schools, and I never liked playing it, which had me left out of some social circles.

        All that said, if people want to run after balls, or dress up in merch of their favourite teams, let them. A ton of hobbies have toxic followings, that doesn’t mean enthusiasm equals toxicity. Laughing and belittling people for being enthusiastic is quite antisocial in my opinion.

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    It’s funny how cosplaying is seen as this weird niche nerdy activity… unless it’s as an athlete.

    Although, having said that, we do have the term ‘full kit wanker’ in the UK, for anyone who buys the whole kit (not just the t-shirt, scarf or hat). Because, you see, there’s an acceptable quantum of cosplaying.

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      If I told people I planned to sit around for hours on a weekend watching TV, they’d call me lazy.

      If I told them I was watching sports, they’d ask me what team I liked.

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        If I told people I planned to sit around for hours on a weekend watching TV, they’d call me lazy.

        Pretty sure this stopped being true a decade ago.

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            And you don’t need to go any further than this thread to see some folks frown upon watching sports too.

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      Wearing a jersey/scarf is more about showing which “tribe” you’re part of though. Going full kit is a bit different as it’s excessive.

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        True. But I think if I wore, like, a Star Trek comm badge, that’d raise more questions than if I wore an Arsenal t-shirt!

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          One thing has shaped communities and defined cultures for a century and the other thing is a science fiction show. It’s really not comparable in my opinion.

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            Maybe for soccer, but the above statement could apply to basketball, ice hockey, and football and those have only been around about 2.5 times longer than trek.

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              It bleeds over though, they are all team sports. Just like Europeans grow up with their local football teams being celebrated, Americans grow up with their franchises being celebrated.

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      Yeah I’m a cosplayer and a sports fan. It’s weird. They’re really cousin hobbies. Both dressing up in appreciation and support of some pop culture “team”—usually that we had nothing to do with creating.

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    These women just can’t understand that men dress and play sports for themselves, not to impress women.

    😤😤😤

    Another estrogen filled rant from the woman-splaining fem-ocracy!

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    My wife once asked me with a straight face if I had any “football cosplay shirts” and while it took me a minute to figure out what she meant, I couldn’t argue with her terminology.

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    If they all just took turns, holding the ball and putting it where they wanted, then there would be no need for all the aggression.

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    Hey do you guys remember when I was super good at sports in the past? Wasn’t that great? I bet I could have been even better if coach had let me play in that key game. Then, everyone would have seen how good I was and I would have got to play more!

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    Women are so funny with their designer clothes and handbags, “I’m just like my favorite singer/actress!” haha, sure you are, lil princess 😀

    Getting their nails done is hilarious, like aww, you gonna go change the way your hand operates so you can have your fun-time 3 inch long plastic shit gatherers? better show them off at the grocery store! 😜

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      Spending money on activities and on community is vastly better than spending it on non essential things and I’ll die on this hill.

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        You can’t act like there’s a substantial difference between the former and the later. It’s mostly a matter of opinion which things are trivialities and which things are important for happiness and community.

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          People that research happiness say that experiences are more important than things and that community is also important for happiness. So there is a difference empirically.

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            My point was more that there’s a lot of individual variation in terms of what things count for what category and even whether they’re enjoyable or not. You would have to pay me to go to a screamo concert. Other people would greatly enjoy the experience. Furthermore, at a certain point, you have to diversify the things you do. You can’t spend 100% of your free time strengthening your relationships, sometimes you gotta just buy some candy and eat it.

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      My dude its a funny post on the internet. Unlike your comment, which was just hateful and vitriolic.

      Bet you’re fun at parties.

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    Why are furries looked down upon but people who dress in fursuits at sporting events viewed as figures of fun?

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            I think it’s the same energy a lot of furries bring to participation in their community to be honest. I have met a lot of asexual furries who basically just want to be a mascot they just don’t have a school or sports team.

            That or they want to be a big stuffed toy who can cuddle with friends in a big non-sexual pile. Probably something to do with abstracted intimacy… Something like most people don’t look at animals sexually so for some their fursonas are at least as much about avoiding being looked at in a sexualized fashion which they experience regularly out of costume.

            Part of my situation being a part of the asexual community back in the early 2000’s was a lot of people coming to the concensus strangely independantly that I am some sort of leopard fursona. I went to one con back around 2006 to see what it was about and while the sexual fetish component was present in side booths it doesn’t seem like the costumes themselves are supposed to be sexy - More like individuals become notorious for their personality and confidence through character acting which is something more like mime… So basically just mascotting but doing it to hype your own brand rather than aerving someone elses? I think they definitely are doing it for notoriety, attention and recognition but not quite the sexual kind. The fetish stuff seemed to be about as much of a thing as hentai anime porn and overtly sexy cosplay is to the anime fandom and convention scene.

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        What you don’t realize is that in this picture, the mascot is fully penetrating this man’s face pussy

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    I don’t sports. All the men I know who sports seem to be very invested. Its cool though, I politics.

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        I jersey for sure. I’ll put my local shirt on wherever. I’ll wear my shirt for any walks or endorsements for candidates at the union hall.

        Yes, I’ll wear my politics, if that’s what you were saying.

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    I wear my Arsenal FC tops with pride. Although I don’t get names put on the back. I fucking love football