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    I’ve had 2 instances where the Shift+F10 method didn’t work on a Windows 11 Home edition install. 1 was a brand new HP laptop I set up for a friend. It came with a bunch of bloatware so I created a bootable USB and reinstalled the OS. It didn’t pull up a command prompt when I tried the command no matter I did. The second was at work. I accidentally let it update during the setup and afterwards it accepted the bypass command, but still never gave me the option to log in without a Microsoft account. I have a feeling they’re phasing that option out for Home.

    At least Pro has the domain join option. Still it sucks that Bitlocker gets set up automatically and associates the key with the first Microsoft account you sign in with.

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      S mode!

      If you buy one in s mode, then you can’t run 3rd party programs or particular built-in ones. That includes command prompt, which is why shift-f10 didn’t work. It’s ok as you can get out of it by, going to the ms store after logging in as an admin!

      We now see the problem with s mode in the out of box experience.

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        You’re right, it was in S mode. I had to create a junk email address to unlock it. The original account was an admin but it wouldn’t remove S mode without an MS account.

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    Okay, this was a year ago. Still, why is anyone at that level setting up there own computer? I would pay someone to do it.

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      He’s not. His assistants tech team’s intern mentioned it through their communication app Elon can shadow read.

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    So the “tech genius” doesn’t know how to install windows without a Microsoft account and doesn’t know how to Google it?

    May I introduce the man who wants you to think he is a genius!

    Thanks Elon for being so transparently incompetent.

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      Is it possible to do that on latest windows 11 home installation? I thought they disabled local accounts completely.

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      And yet my parents still believe that he must have had some competence to be in the place he is at now. Illusion of meritocracy blinds so much.

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    Political relevance be damned, anyway…

    You can press SHIFT+F10 keys to open Command Prompt.

    Execute OOBE\BYPASSNRO command then.

    After this, setup will reboot the computer and after reboot, you’ll get a new option I don’t have Internet or Continue with limited setup to skip the Internet requirement.

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      I did this when installing Windows 11 for a friend, was also my first experience installing Windows 11 as well. Having to open a command line during the installation process really nullifies the “Windows easy” and “linux hard” stereotype.

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        Thats the thing, you dont HAVE to install without a MS account. That is your choice.

        Most people don’t care and create an MS account anyway. And they don’t have to use any command line.

        Also a single command line still does not compare to Linux.

        Nothing is nullified

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      Also, make sure the network isn’t plugged in. If Windows detects a connection you have to start all over.

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    WHO THE FUCK SAYS “PC LAPTOP”??

    Did he type that from his laptop phone? Maybe speech-to-text from his cell phone smartwatch?

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      I might be dumb. PC vs Mac is a common way to differentiate. Laptop vs stationary is a common way to differentiate. Isn’t “PC Laptop” a pretty descriptive and non-overlapping way to unambinguiusly distinguish the item?

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        It’s mostly a marketing gimmick, same as people who say “tablet or iPad”.

        In this case in particular is complaining about windows, it would be a stretch to think it’s an apple computer.

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        In that case it would be a Windows laptop. PC stands for Personal Computer. It has nothing to do with the OS.

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          PC absolutely has to do with the OS in certain contexts. Do you not remember the “Hi, I’m a Mac.” “And I’m a PC.” Line of commercials?

          Example of the usage: https://www.computerworld.com/article/1568544/mac-vs-pc-cost-analysis-how-does-it-all-add-up.html

          This is because long ago there was the Apple Macintosh and the IBM Personal Computer. So things that were “PC compatible” were not Macs. So the term got applied to Windows stuff. It’s not used very much now, but that article is from 2007.

          So while it’s correct terminology to say Windows are PCs and Macs aren’t, it’s pretty outdated and another example of his failure to be recent on tech trends. I don’t think I’ve used the term PC to mean Windows since 2020 at least. Probably longer.

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            I do remember those ads but I did not know about the IBM Personal Computer distinction, to be honest. Thanks for the added context!

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                Even if that were true, does that mean that we should all accept it and drink the Apple Kool-Aid? A PC was, is and will always be a Personal Computer.

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                  Kinda? Whether you like it not that’s just how society functions. You either acknowledge what society decides or you end up becoming the guy who argues that drawing swastikas doesn’t make you a nazi because it’s a symbol of luck.

                  And if you want to go down the rabbit hole of “PC is personal computer” good luck defining what a computer is without defaulting to what society thinks a computer is, because technically your phone is a computer that is for your personal use. Your phone is a PC. In a sense so is your TV and your gaming console and the steam deck and possibly even your fridge. Maybe even your car.

                  Save yourself the headache and use PC as you understand it while accepting that others have a different meaning for PC.

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    the world’s richest man, de facto president, head of the tech oligarchy, is complaining about corporations irritating him.

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      If only there was a sort of consumer protection bureau of some sort. To regulate these types of things…

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    Remember when it was possible to browse Twitter unrestricted without having to sign up with an account? Those were good times.

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      My exact first thought. If he’s going to abuse his power and force govt services to provide twitter updates it should be accessible to all without restriction.

      The National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) on Saturday said it will stop e-mailing news organizations and reporters with updates about two plane crashes that occurred earlier this week.
      Moving forward, the federal agency tasked with investigating transportation-related accidents and disasters said news organizations and reporters will have to follow the agency’s official account on X

      https://thedesk.net/2025/02/ntsb-moves-plane-crash-press-updates-x-twitter/

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    For anyone reading this that has to install Windows, when you get to the point where it asks you to log into a Microsoft account, hit shift+F10, type oobe\bypassnro into the command prompt and after it reboots select “I don’t have an account”…

    I would still maintain that Linux is a better option though.

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    Yes you do have to live in capitalist hellscape too, asshat. Maybe you should have thought about that a little sooner. >:(

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      linux isnt popular enough for him to claim to be an expert on it

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      Probably is just abusing his power and platform to move public opinion in the direction he wants. Looking at the rest of this thread, most of us took the bait.