Reminder: Ableist slurs are NOT allowed regardless of who they are directed at.
Read up!
https://www.specialolympics.org/stories/impact/why-the-r-word-is-the-r-slur
Long ago, my father would inspect hospitals and would have to call in his reports and I’d frequently hear the r-word - in its original form - in those instances, at least originally. And like you say, that word was originally meant as a euphemism since it just means “slowed”.
A term that was more frequently slung around on our playground, probably more than the r-word was “sped”, which took me a long time to connect with the shorthand for saying SPecial EDucation.
Good men don’t need rules?
The reason good people don’t need rules is because they wouldn’t violate them even if they did. Using that to rationalize being a jerk is misapplying it.
If you’re a “good man,” you wouldn’t be using the r-slur in the first place. The exact cognitive dissonance which allows fascists to be fascists is that they believe themselves to be good people and therefore don’t need rules. But instead of actually being good people, they use this as an excuse to be terrible to others.
Go look at the mod’s profile page. That’s where I got that.
Honestly, I think its a bullshit statement, so I called him out.
And then you ate the onion.Oh that was juicy. Thank you for that one.
;)
*Noooo don’t call an actual real life monster and a fascist a no no word noooo that makes you just as bad as them nooooo! *
You managed to call them a monster and a fascist without resorting to ableist slurs just fine. Get over it.
I can get over minor things and words that don’t matter just fine. Can you? Thick skin and resilience matters a whole of a lot more than nagging other people about certain words.
If you can really get over minor things then why did you post this? Seems like you’re still nagging people over word choice. Some thicker skin would avoid this problem.
This is the only place they feel control in their lives so they feel the need to flex it incessantly.
I feel myself lose control of my bladder and sphincters all the time. How would I feel myself lose control if I didnt have control to begin with? Checkmate. /s
Do you say the same thing when someone uses the n-slur, f-slur, c-slur, b-slur, s-slur, w-slur, or any other slurs?
I know 2 of those I think. I don’t know what c through w is referring to though
Thick skin and resilience matters a whole of a lot more than nagging other people about certain words.
[citation needed]
so calling him any slur is okay, or just this one?
i mean, fuck that guy, but that word has a heavy and hateful impact on some people. i just think it’s easier for people to ignore that one than to ignore several others, unfortunately.
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If only there were good people on the Internet… 😂
I found one! ☝️
He sounds pretty mentally handicapped to me.
One of my daughters has CP and we use the term ironically often… is retard really becoming a slur? We think it’s fine if you’re not special needs around these parts. However if you called a special needs person retarded then its basically fighting words.
A slur is any insulting or disparaging remark. The r-word used as a way to make fun or tear down any individual is a slur. It hasn’t even been used as a medical term for decades now. It doesn’t matter the company you keep or if the recipient of said remark is “okay” with it. It’s a slur and has been distasteful for a long time.
HAAAAAANK
For the record the Twitter page that article is talking about (‘I Find Retards’) is a right-wing Twitter page. Previously considered retards: trans people and those with Down Syndrome, and anyone remotely left-wing. They use ‘retard’ because they don’t care about minorities and like ‘edgy humor’. Why do you use it, then? Don’t make your hatred of fascists make you forget about your fellow disabled Dems, like me.
Dear FBI, Kash Patel is a douchebag. Please make sure he sees this.
Hugs and kisses.
- NotASharkInAManSuit
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We’ve made a bit of progress. In the past, such a post would be immediately banned, simply for having the word in the title. As if the word itself is magical apart from context and intent.
Try reading the comments here
“Free speech absolutists” except when their feelings get hurt…
The mods… Literally half the comments here got censored and banned
Because they were using the r-slur? That only makes sense. It’s against the community rules, is it not? The mods here never claimed to be free speech absolutists.
If you think the problem here is that people aren’t allowed to use the r-slur, you completely missed the point of the article.
The hypocrisy is the main issue. This admin cries about how people can’t say the r-slur anymore, and then they get butthurt and threaten abuses of power when it’s used against them.
Weaponizing the FBI against some jerks on the internet is a huge part of the problem too. Enforcing conduct and language standards falls on content moderation teams, not federal law enforcement. That doesn’t mean the whole internet should be the wild west. Unless you’re okay with nazis spouting hate? Because that’s what you’ll get with free speech absolutism.
So honestly I really don’t get you’re point. Should the mods not remove comments that use slurs, and ban repeat offenders?
Literally the same as the post, r slur used and no more free speech.
I suggest using the power of your free speech to walk up in person too anyone of color and using any of those words to their face and see how your “free speech” goes.
Furthermore, a little reasearch on what “free speech” means and doesn’t mean might be in order.
What I find interesting is that so many people seem to want to stand up on the side of bigotry and demand their “right” to be a bigot and use bigoted language. I’m not sure that’s really a great look.
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Wrong use of ellipses.
Wrong use of pedantry…
…no…
Mods, this isn’t the hill to die on and you know it.
Ban all who dare use slurs against fascists pedophiles!
Fascists sealioning and normalizing genocide? Okie dokie.
Man, I agree with you, but these are the rules:
“All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed.”
How you execute a consistent set of policies when the rules say you don’t have to be consistent is beyond me.
LOL! I think it’s one of those “read the room first” situations.
I’ve always said Kash Patel deserves 100% of the shit the GOP spews thrown right back in his “special needs” face… but that IS a slur against the actual people that are disabled, since Patel isn’t really needing of any special treatment or help… beyond the karmic swift one in the pants he so deserves.
Which should be given with extreme wit, vigor and prejudice.
Consider the actual definition of the word not just how it makes you feel…it applies to both Patel personally and his role in the current administration, he is actively retarding our entire law enforcement system as well as the investigation against the single largest, most vile, and most influential criminal organization to ever exist. It can be a slur but it’s not inherently a slur.
This headline will very likely be written in history books.
You can tell it’s a slur because of how haughty people get when you tell them they can’t say it. Lol they really want to be able to say it.
Googly-eyed chud
this is good. we’re making good progress here.
Chud is a no no word meant to disparage underground canibals you can’t use that word!
Underground cannibals is a slur! We call them ‘people who eat people’ now.
“Googly-eyed Kremlin bitch” still court-approved
There’s something subtly wrong here. Hmm…
Looks pretty accurate to me
His skin has a slight green cast to it. Could just be the lighting. Otherwise, it’s one of the better pictures I’ve seen of the asshole.
That dude has definitely drunk Bailey’s from a shoe.
Don’t you do ol’ greg like that
The eyes are too aligned
This admin is the most thin skinned set of man-babies I’ve ever witnessed in office.
I was recently banned from some vegan comm for using the word ‘moron’. Same justification.
They told me to fix my comment.
I said no.deserved
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Did they all reply to the posts with “yeah, we know”?
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Hey mods, I didn’t direct the r-word at anyone, specifically mentioned that it’s offensive, and suggested the alternative and legally defensible term googly-eyed chud. I think the automod needs to calm down a bit.
I wasn’t the one who did it, and personally, I think it could have gone either way, but while I don’t think I would have removed that one, I certainly would not argue against its removal. I don’t think the moderator needs to calm down at all. A ban for that comment might’ve been rather much, but a simple removal is perfectly fine.
No one did it. It was automod looking for the existence of a word and ignoring any potential context.“<redacted> is offensive” was removed for having the word <redacted> in it. That’s asinine.
Edit: Apparently all mod activity notifications come from the automod. It’s still asinine to try policing the existence of a word.
Well, this is simply incorrect. I ran across this thread and reported several comments, bringing it to the attention of the moderators, who took action.
And you are free to have yourr opinions, but again, I suggest complying with the Lemmy.world TOS. If you think the TOS is asinine, that’s fine - as long as you comply with them.
This is some arrogant, patronising dogshit.
If you don’t like the rules, don’t use the site.
Do you also measure your neighbors’ lawns with a ruler and report them to the HOA? You seem like the type…
Do you watch police brutality and think, “THIN BLUE LINE! HUAH!!!”? Let’s discuss other stupid things. Or maybe you might stop standing up for bigotry.
“His partner’s eyes must be even more fucked than his.”
(apologies for stealing this joke from Romesh Ranganathan)
Imagine growing up knowing you wanted to be in the FBI to be part of a crack team working on real crimes and then…getting assigned a task like this?
I mean, what the fuck?
“Agent, we have a new assignment for you.”
“Yes, sir, what will it be this time? Another terrorist group trying to ship in illegal weaponry?”
“Uh, well… It’s more related to the internet.”
“Ah, I see, sir. Will this be like the time I infiltrated that human trafficking communication network?”
“No… Some people on the internet, uh, hurt Mr. Patel’s feelings…”
“No problem sir, I will take them… wait, what did you say?”
“You need to create a twi… an ‘X’ account and reply to those who say mean things to Mr. Patel.”
I imagine half the people who grow up wanting to be in the FBI would have been caught up in the propaganda/entertainment shows like 24 growing up. The run around shoot bad guys and stop nuclear bombs from being snuck into the country before they blow up (insert large city here). Unless they were really into forensics and like lab work, but there can’t be to many people out there that love science and think the FBI would be the best place to study/learn cool new things
Unless they care about things like countering human trafficking and get into it because they legitimately want to stop evil people and save lives or rescue innocents…
Ah good point, I was thinking that fell under DHS.
but there can’t be to many people out there that love science and think the FBI would be the best place to study/learn cool new things
On a serious note, in the past few decades, the government has gone to great lengths to attract people like that into these agencies. In the earlier 2000’s, the government realized it had a significant lack of talent compared to the private sector when it came to technology and especially cyber security. The government has a lot of close connections with the private sector, but also worked to directly attract talent too including allowing more competitive salaries or benefits.
Years ago there were a ton of articles talking about how the FBI had wanted to do away with the federal drug testing requirements when it came to marijuana, because it prevented them from recruiting certain groups.
