Mormon leaders, military veterans and elected officials reacted with anger to a new Department of Defense policy that does not consider The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints to be a Christian religion as part of a wider effort to cut down the U.S. military’s list of recognized faiths.
“The Pentagon’s decision to list The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints apart from other Christian faiths is wrong and needs to be corrected,” Republican Rep. Mike Kennedy, of heavily Mormon Utah, wrote on X on Sunday.
When you accept that others rights can be taken away, you must also accept that your own rights can be taken away.
If you accept that groups can be excluded from society, you must also accept that your group may one day be excluded.
If you accept that might makes right, you must accept that one mightier than yourself will one day come along.
If you live by the sword, you will likely die by the sword.
Idk how many times this has to happen throughout history before people act learn from it.
Not just that, their society is fiercely hierarchical, so by its very nature there is already always someone directly above them, and this particular movement has already shown that they don’t see them as equals.
In the wise words of Jello Biafra:
In the real Fourth Reich you’ll be the first to go
It was the fuck aroundest of times.
It was the find outest of times.
yeah we’re like three quarters of the way through that Niemöller poem now
I wish Mormons would be outraged over something that mattered, like the sexual abuse in their church, or the fact their church supporting mormon thieves and scammers across the country, who have stolen over a billion dollars from their fellow Americans.
While sexual abuse does occur in the church, the trick of having the church operate as it does is to catch predators. Similar to how Donald Trump is the orange cop-in-chief, because God and the FBI knows who offered him what.
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Forgive and move on like a good Mormon.
Dum-dum-dumdum-dum
Ha trump administration showing favoritism. That not new btw.
LDS is Christian the way a pineapple is an apple. Petey can go fuck himself though.
One just has golden plates and the other doesn’t. Pretty much the same thing.
It really isn’t. The amount of control they exercise over their congregants and money they require to stay in good standing is astronomical compared to lost other christian denominations. Their propaganda, investment and political arms make them the biggest existential threat to North American democracy and culture as a centralized religious organization.
Not to mention the basis of the faith is that Jesus came to America and your skin color determines if your ancestors were sinners. That’s cuckoo bananas even by christian standards.
Yes well I was really just trying to be funny (poorly) I must admit, good points I’m glad you stated though.
This could impact a lot of Trump votes if not corrected too. I don’t think even he’s so dumb to alienate such a large voter base.
I wish! I feel like they’ll vote Republican until one of their “prophets” tells them heavenly father told them otherwise.
The amount of control they exercise over their congregants and money they require to stay in good standing is astronomical compared to lost other christian denominations.
Wait til you hear about how greedy the Catholic Church was before & during the Reformation. New denomination, same religion. This is just how faiths inevitably evolve.
Also Mormonism—though I hate using this aphorism because it’s not even true—is as American as apple pie, there’s really no threat to be spoken of here in the usual sense of the word. It’s existed for more or less 200 years now, subsisting along with every other facet of its surrounding culture. Mormonism is American society, it wouldn’t have become so widespread without it.
I’m honestly more surprised that JWs and Christian Scientists are listed under “Christian” than that Mormons aren’t. All of those are considered cults, rather than legitimate denominations, by mainstream Christianity (Orthodox, Catholic, and Protestant).
I mean they are all cults, just ones society finds acceptable for some reason.
Wasn’t it the Mormons whose founder got some glasses from an angel, which allowed him to read the bible? Well, that is what I call a fairytale.
And what do you call the Bible then?
If you read the Bible and take everything literally, I cannot help you. I assume, however, that you are well aware that certain parts were intended for different audiences or types of believers. Some passages convey a different message than, for example, the Quran or the Torah. As for the meaning of secularisation and the distinction between „religia“ and „ecclesia“, I’ll leave it to you to look it up on Wikipedia or another reliable source.
Nah I’m good, I’d rather spend my time learning about shit that’s actually real
No prob with that. Keep just in mind that the Bible, especially the New Testament, is to a certain part a parable.
The parables are the stories that Jesus tells in order to make a point or to teach people about something.
It’s very clear when something happening in the Bible is a parable or not.
If I recall the original definition of the modern cult vs religion division is just what ever the British crown recognized as legitimate. Lol
Pepsi is a cult. America is a cult. A cult is just a type of network structure around a centralized cultural mission.
Mormonism is definitely a cult, zero bones about it. But the emotional attachment–and the subsequent damage–is very very real.
Do you think Christ is your imaginary friend?
If so, you are a Christmas.
so brave of you to save merry christmas i cried
They notably did not say “merry”. ;-)
Why are they WAGING WAR on christianity by NOT SAYING THE THING CORRECTLY???
Pete gets his theology from Chick tracts.
“HAW HAW HAW!” 😈
What does it mean when a religion is officially recognised by the military? Do they get extra time for prayers or something?
It’s actually primarily for counseling and emotional care purposes, lifestyle accommodations, as well as planning for the worst in the event that someone is killed in action.
If you get shot and die, they need to be able to know how to treat your body after death.
They really just want to stop service members from putting “Jedi Knight” on their dog tag under the religion section. Not joking lol
As a deployment manager that made dog tags for a few years, we didn’t care. Jedi, Pastafarian, Dudist, whatever. You are doing your country a service that most people can’t really comprehend. I’ll put whatever you want in that section as long as the other stuff that actually matters is correct.
Literally everyone but the youngest of children can comprehend it. War and service is about as old and traditional to humanity as you can fucking get.
Not a soul on this planet has grown up not being taught endlessly about war and duty. Even if it’s sanitized out the fucking ass. The majority have also been directly effected by it one way or another. Loss of life, mental well being, home, food, or even mass displacement. For themselves or their loved ones.
Short of bread and beer you don’t get fucking anything more ubiquitous than military service to the human experience.
Its a fucking insult to even consider someone out side of the youngest children might not be able to comprehend how far reaching and devastating. Military service can be.
If you think the average person can understand what it is like to give up ultimate control of your life in 6-year chunks, I have some bad news for you.
People in the military are bound by law to do whatever is necessary for the mission regardless of the cost to them. For over 20 years, I lived moment to moment assuming that with no notice, I could be sent to the other side of the globe without my immediate family. During my time in, I was deployed to a remote country, in a war zone, with no notice, while my wife dealt with the consequences. During that time, I had very limited contact with my spouse, and what time I did have was regularly interrupted with literal attacks that could have killed me.
Beyond my experience there, my spouse had to deal with the fact that I would occasionally just leave in the middle of a call, because rocket attack.
So, pardon me if I am skeptical of your claim that most people can understand that I now drive past litter on the side of the road cautiously because it might be a bomb. And that is just the start of the weird differences I have experienced transitioning from military life into being a civilian.
Soon they’ll be calling them Lessmons.
Dum-da-dum-dum-dum!
That’s funny, I no longer count Israel worshiping evangelical Zionists as Christian.
What did they think would happen?
I mean, they voted for this. A massive amount of Mormons vote R.
LDS is one of the richest organized religions in the US, they are also one of the biggest sources of insane right wing propaganda online. They are almost singularly responsible for purity culture and the Maha movement. They fund a massive amount of influencers online who don’t explicitly identify themselves as Mormon, but push people towards their cult and other Mormons recognize the dog whistles.
I can ask them, remember how we literally had this conversation a few years ago? I don’t expect to get an honest answer though.
The obvious flaw in Christian Nationalism - what kind of Christian? It’s such an easy way to turn MAGA in on itself. ention the Pope and they’ll fight among themselves. Billboards in Salt Lake City informing them of this decision. Every time Trump wheels out some spiritual con artist be sure to mention their denomination. This isn’t hard.
what kind of Christian?
Sort of, except they’re holding the guns and will shoot each other for praising God slightly differently.
Love to see a military leader who self-inflicts more wounds than the enemy. Dipshit.
Populist leopard administration purity tests everyone leaving their voters realizing that the administration doesn’t consider them fit to be part of their society except as tasty tasty face treats. More at 11.
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