There is no reason we can’t take it out on MAGA at the ballot box, take back power, and then use that power to crush MAGA. All we need are political leaders with the courage and strength to do what we are SCREAMING at them to do.
If he is already saying that he doesn’t intend to impeach Trump, it means he probably doesn’t plan to impeach anyone else either. If he won’t commit to fight MAGA, that makes him ineligible for his job.
Jeffries’ primary is on June 23, and he is being challenged by 27 year old Chi Osse, who just filed paperwork to run against him a couple of days ago. Osse is a Democratic Socialist, a Mamdani follower, and with Mamdani killing it in NYC, and Jeffries performing as badly as if he was being paid by MAGA, he might actually have a chance. I can’t believe Jeffries constituents are that thrilled with the half-assed job he’s been doing for YEARS.
We need to spread the word far & wide, as loud as possible, that Jeffries has already said that when they regain power, he intends to squander it AGAIN, and allow MAGA to rise AGAIN! He has already proven to be weak, cowardly, and incompetent. I literally can’t think of a single substantial thing he has done to resist MAGA’s breathtaking corruption. He doesn’t deserve another chance to fail us. Primary him out, and send a shocking message to ALL weak incumbent Democrats: Get in the game, or get the fuck out.
And once he’s out, we need to investigate both Jeffries, and Schmuck. I’m not convinced those losers aren’t Manchurian MAGAs. If the word came in that Schmuck & Jeffries would sell out for a billion bucks, the money would be in a Cayman account by noon. Let’s see if they accepted, my bet is Yes.
Hakeem Jeffries challenged to 2026 primary by 27-year-old New York councilman
Fuck him up, Chi!
“There will be no justice. We will let you down.”
Great way to throw an election.
Goddamnit I can’t believe jordanlund of all people is like the only one with a correct take in this entire thread.
I literally don’t even know how many times Trump has been impeached. Three maybe? Is it three? Could be four. I think it was more than one. I don’t remember what any of the charges were, if I ever heard.
Caring about that shit is such performative lib shit. The only people who care about Trump’s “permanent record” are politically engaged liberals who were 100% going to “vote blue no matter who” anyway. Do you seriously think you could walk into like a random warehouse and ask people what crimes Trump has been impeached over and get correct answers from anyone who wasn’t already a guaranteed vote?
The way you actually reach people is by promoting things that *make a material difference in their lives," not some DC soap opera shit. You say something like, “No tax on tips,” you start cutting through the culture war barriers and media environments and catching the attention of people who normally wouldn’t give two shits about politics. But libs are so far up their own asses about “decorum” and “permanent records” and shit that even Republicans have managed to outflank them, which is an utter embarrassment.
Also, for the record, the justice system is a complete joke regardless. Bush never got impeached for all the illegal torture and spying he did. Anyone with good sense who’s paying attention should know better than to look to the law (of all things!) as some kind of moral guide. The law only matters as far as it exerts power, a purely symbolic “victory” within a fundamentally broken system could not be more meaningless.
Oh but to be clear fuck Jefferies, just like, not for this specific thing.
That’s fine, it’s failed three times now.
But if they have the votes to remove him & don’t, that’s going to be a huge problem.
Wrong answer
Yep, he was already worthless, he just confirmed it. Could you imagine being in the most consequential election since the Civil War, and this “leader” just announced his intention to surrender before it’s even started, and he still expects people to vote for him?
This should be career ending.
Is there a progressive or, you know, anyone with a pulse running against this useless lump of flesh in the primary?
GOOD NEWS!
Jeffries’ primary is on June 23, and he is being challenged by 27 year old Chi Osse, who just filed paperwork to run against him a couple of days ago. Osse is a Democratic Socialist, a Mamdani follower, and with Mamdani killing it in NYC, and Jeffries performing as badly as if he was being paid by MAGA, he might actually have a chance. I can’t believe Jeffries constituents are that thrilled with the half-assed job he’s been doing for YEARS.
We need to spread the word far & wide, as loud as possible, that Jeffries has already said that when they regain power, he intends to squander it AGAIN, and allow MAGA to rise AGAIN! He has already proven to be weak, cowardly, and incompetent. I literally can’t think of a single substantial thing he has done to resist MAGA’s breathtaking corruption. He doesn’t deserve another chance to fail us. Primary him out, and send a shocking message to ALL weak incumbent Democrats: Get in the game, or get the fuck out.
Hakeem Jeffries challenged to 2026 primary by 27-year-old New York councilman
Fuck him up, Chi!
I am definitely going to find out how I can donate to his campaign.
Is this idiot trying to lose the midterms?
Yes
I suspect the answer is actually “yes”. AIPAC has spoken, they like trump.
Controlled opposition. Like Chuck the cuck or rich bitch Pelosi
When asked if impeachment was a top priority, Jeffries said “of course not” during an appearance on “Fox News Sunday.”
“I’ve made clear from the very beginning that our top priority is going to be to drive down the high cost of living,” the House minority leader added.
Sounds like he’s trying to win the midterms.
Sounds like you don’t understand where we’re at as a nation.
Or what Americans actually want. it’s not a “vocal minority” that want the pedophile, racist, bigoted asshole of a president that is jacking up our cost of living so he can be a fucking king gone. So ignoring that and saying you will do nothing about it IS NOT A WINNING STRATEGY.
doing nothing except writing stern letters is not going to solve the problem, either.
How did Trump win? The economy.
that’s excessively simplistic.
Trump did not win “because of the economy.”
He won because he was able to motivate his base to vote where Harris had been less able to do so.
Yes, Trump utilized “the economy” as a talking point, but he also utilized deregulation, and immigration (read: general bigotry and scapegoating) as well as LGBTQ+ and christofascist culture war bullshit. Trump’s voters are too stupid to understand that he’s lying to them, so that kind of messaging actually works.
Harris on the other hand also campaigned on “the economy”- and the cost of living and continued work to supporting not-millionaires; as well as shit like Trump’s former immigration plan and continued support for Israel and so on. harris/Democrat voters are not too stupid to see the problem with some of the things she adopted(immigration, supporting israel) and such like; while souring on economic messaging because Biden had been constantly running that out as if it were amazing while most Americans were struggling. (it took him until like the October before the presidential election to even acknowledge most Americans were still struggling.)
Basically, Trump won because Harris did exactly what the Jefferies is now doing; and that’s summed up as “Ignoring the American people”.
Sure, drive down the cost of living … by impeaching Trump and getting rid of his dumbass tariffs.
Impeaching Trump will not remove him and is political theater since there is no way they will have 67 senate votes. It should be done anyway as a matter of principle, but should not be a top priority.
since there is no way they will have 67 senate votes.
They somehow found the Senate votes for making the Epstein files release into law. (A law which the regime is now blatantly and unapologetically violating.)
What would have happened there if House Dems just sat on their thumbs and said, “There is no way we will have the votes in the Senate for this”?
The Dems have got to stop assuming defeat before they even try.
It’s also not beneficial to waste political capital on extreme long shots. Impeach as a matter of principal, but don’t make it a primary focus.
I kind of take objection to the entire concept of ‘political capital’, spoken of as if it’s an exchange currency that gets used up and permanently goes away when you spend it. It stinks of corrupt and opaque backroom deals and quid pro quo. And, as is the case here, it creates and justifies self-defeating attitudes, where politicians very often don’t dare to do the right thing, because they can’t risk ‘spending’ their precious ‘political capital’ on the right thing when they’re saving it up for something else they might possibly need it for later. How many politicians have ended their terms with ‘political capital’ still left unspent in their account? That shit has an expiration date – it makes no sense to hoard it!
Instead, just do the right thing (to the best of your ability to determine what the ‘right thing’ is) immediately and unrelentingly, at every turn. Never hold back.
And I also only ever hear it as an explanation of why Dems “can’t” do the right thing. When have you ever heard Republicans talking about how they can’t do something because they ‘don’t have the political capital’? No, they just do it. And if their bill/resolution/whatever fails to pass, they just do it again. And again. How many times did they try to repeal the Affordable Care Act? They obviously didn’t have the ‘political capital’ to pull that off, but it didn’t stop them from trying over and over again anyway. Why can’t the Dems have a bit of that energy when it comes to doing things that might benefit the country? (I know, trick question. The real reason they can’t do that is because they’re bought and paid for by corporate interests. ‘Political capital’ is just another convenient excuse they trot out in the all-too-frequent case of when the interests of their donors aren’t aligned with the interests of their voters.)
Is there some way both parties can lose the midterms?
If enough people vote for a different party.
Hypothetically, yes, independents could have a majority. Realistically… no.
I really hope he gets primaried
I’m hoping there plan is to treat him like a stupid old feeb, and they’re saying this with a big wink.
Removing Trump requires 67 votes in the senate. There is no mathematical way to get those numbers in November. I don’t agree with him, but I understand where he is coming from.
It doesn’t matter. We need to weaponize impeachment, and impeach him EVERY time he commits another crime. Let there be hundreds, even thousands of impeachment proceedings under way, just for him. And then do the same to all of his henchmen.
It doesn’t matter that the Senate won’t convict, it still wastes MAGA time. It will still keep them tied up in court with expensive lawyers and publicists, and distract them for every second of the next two years.
MAGA is one of the only groups for which bullying is not only acceptable, but patriotic, and STRONGLY encouraged. They deserve it, so bully them relentlessly until they cry. Abuse the shit out of those psychopaths.
Anti-vaxxers, too.
I like this, we definitely should turn their spam like legal strategy of overwhelming the system against them.
This administration has also set the precedent of going after people for purely political reasons. I am not suggesting the Dems do this, but I am suggesting they do as you say and try to prosecute every single crime they can. If it grinds the government to a halt so be it. It is long past time for a recogning of the corruption and embezzlement going on.
We don’t have to go after their politics, although that’s what they’ll claim, as if they don’t do exactly that every day. All we have to do is play HARD BALL, and investigate, charge, prosecute, and issue CONSECUTIVE prison sentences for their criminal violations ONLY.
We don’t have to attack them, they’ll hang themselves. We just have to force the cowardly Dem leadership to do their jobs. During the Biden administration, all they had to do was invoke the 14th Amendment, and Trump would never have gotten near the White House again, as well as a whole lot of MAGA lawmakers, too.
Time to play Hard Ball. BATTER UP!
Now is the time for a bold declaration of what we’re not going to do!
So courageous.
There is a way in the November mid-terms. You’re just naysaying for the sake of it. But I understand where you’re coming from.
I am a realist. Living in the clouds gets us nowhere. I am not saying we won’t get enough seats to put reins on him, but he needs to majorly fuck up to push democrats to to win 20 additional seats. And we are talking fucking up in a way that makes people who have voted for a convicted rapist, pedofile criminal, liar, and overall horrible human being reconsider their vote.
Unfortunately, I don’t see it happening.But go ahead, prove me wrong. Canvas, call, influence people. Prove that I am wrong. I want you to. I want you to make me swallow my words. I would love nothing more than to be completely wrong.
Requires the dems winning nearly every race because the maximum they could get up to is 69 right now. If they win every single seat up for re-election.
The dems do have an advantage though. There are more republican seats up for re-election than democrat ones.
Not nearly every race, there are 22 R seats up for grabs and Dems currently have 45. They need every single seat. Some of those republican seats won by more than 20pts last election, also it’s not a guarantee that all dems vote for it.
Fetterman won’t.
I dunno why they keep putting a D after his name.
Dudes R through and through
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Jeffries incumbency no longer a top priority for dems once they win House majority
this just in from everyone hearing his weak-ass bullshit
I can’t believe I voted for this bullshit motherfucker twice just because I thought he was cute and he flirted with me once. like I organized for him. I knocked on (possibly thousands of) doors for him. I marched through streets for this useless motherfucker! canvassing and al that endless campaign bullshit… FOR MONTHS!!!
and all for this? FOR THIS MEANINGLESS BULLSHIT NOTHING OF A STATE REP?? AAAARRGHH!!!
And it begins.
“Let’s move past thus” “We have to think about the future” “We need to reach across the table”
Fuck these corrupt politicians. They know what Trump is and just want more after a short break.
I mean, I’m not even gonna say Hakeem Jeffries is corrupt (because I don’t really know), but I sure as shit am gonna say that he’s a do-nothing coward piece of shit. And that’s just as bad. He needs to go!
The sound of the ratchet clanking shut as the overton window locks into place so that it can shift right once more.
One of the problems with the Democratic Party is that the number one quality for choosing leadership is how well they fundraise. Obviously this makes leadership beholden to those with the biggest pockets, like AIPAC.
We need to primary every Democrat incumbent who isn’t a progressive in action as well as rhetoric.
That is one strategy, the other would be to change the rules of the game and eliminate fundraising altogether or greatly limit it. Politicians should be chosen for their ability to champion needed legislation and to get policies that benefit their constituents passed. Not for their ability to cozy up to wealthy people to do their bidding
As we can see with the current administration, fundraising has taken over politics completely. So much so that the fundraising never stops and has become the point instead of actual governance. This is a broken system that can’t be fixed by voting people in or out unless that is directly leading to serious reforms.
We can get rid of him in the primary.
That website isn’t visible for me as a foreigner, but I checked his answers on the Ballotpedia questionnaire. Seems like we agree on a lot of things. Good luck, Americans. These could be the most important midterms of your lives.
If it makes you feel any better, he’s still undoubtedly better than whatever Republican ran against him.
You deserve the republicans at this point
Good for you for putting in the effort though. Every drop counts, even if some arsehat comes along and steals your effort. You still did your best.
Vote that fucker out.
well duh. where’s the profit in the change of rhetoric?
If only we can work hard to get him a majority, Jeffries promises he will only use it to play games strictly in his lane instead of actually leading and actively opposing trumps wild overreaches and global shenanigans. Thats heartening.
Impeaching would be a pointless game.
Impeaching would be a pointless game.
Disagree, because I think a big part of politics is posturing, arguing, presenting your data as best you can, and putting on a show to get people charged enough to get off the couch. Its manufacturing support. So Jeffries job should be much more than just occasionally voting.
Not only that but defending himself from impeachment takes resources away from all the other awful shit Trump is doing.
Won’t succeed in removing him from office and “pointless” are not the same thing.
A referendum on his abhorrent behavior as president is absolutely called for. And a spotlight on the complicity of the entire Republican party is worth making hay out of. Jefferies is a spineless jellyfish who should be primaried out of political existence.
A referendum on his abhorrent behavior as president is absolutely called for.
Sure, but of the “torches and pitchforks” style of referendum and not in the “meaningless symbolic gesture within a broken system where you can’t do anything” style. Otherwise you’re just wasting time and energy on meaningless political theater.
Jefferies is a spineless jellyfish who should be primaried out of political existence.
100%. I’d be happy to see an effective referendum on his behavior too. Just over the actual bad things he’s done and not because the way he dances on stage isn’t to your liking.
Right? Genuinely what the fuck is impeachment doing at this point? Nothing. The answer, at best, is obviously “nothing”, and you’d have to be deluded to think otherwise.
I don’t even mean the obvious inevitability that it wouldn’t remove Trump; I mean that, at best, it wouldn’t sway public opinion effectively whatsoever. Trump right now is hanging himself by his own noose, and if anything, an impeachment could put angry Republicans on the defensive by redirecting their attention through a partisan lens.
Impeachment should not be a priority; it’s patently a waste of time at this point, especially if Democrats win a House majority and can at least work to meaningfully slow Republicans’ flood of garbage.
I don’t follow your logic here. You know what slows a flood of garbage legislation? Forcing impeachment over and over
Forcing impeachment over and over
I’m not even going to dignify this with a smarmy “wow, look at the strategic genius on display here” and breakdown of why this is dumb, because that’d be an insult to other people reading this.
This is plainly the dumbest idea imaginable. House Democrats impotently jerking themselves off on the national stage over and over again is a strategy completely divorced from reality; Trump, by being such an astoundingly terrible leader, may have given them one more chance to turn the country around, and the second they actually seize on that (see: the article), your grand idea is to overshadow Republicans’ ire toward Trump and piss away all precious political momentum in a torturously useless quagmire of “orange man bad!” instead of at least attempting something feasibly useful.
Just agonizingly stupid. Also, you clearly have zero idea how “slowing down Republicans’ flood of garbage” (notice I didn’t say “legislation”; I meant generally) works if you think that it helps to hold impeachment hearings over and over if Democrats already have the majority.
Congress’s main duties are legislation, budgeting and impeachment. To fully realize those powers they need a super majority or a cooperative president, and they’ll have neither.
The administration will veto any legislation and has fucked with budgets. There is quite literally nothing useful Congress can do (unless you think they’ll have a sufficient super-majority) except obstruct or compromise with fascists.
If they had the power to do anything useful I would expect several Constitutional amendments to top the list along with impeaching the whole executive branch and some Supreme Court justices. But they won’t have that so what performative bullshit would you rather have them do?
I would rather have them do “performative bullshit” about things that actually affect people’s lives in a real, material way. Take a popular, progressive issue (or issues) and hammer it in repeatedly that you’re the side trying to help people and the Republicans are blocking you.
They could be coming out with like, abolish ICE, end the war in Iran, give people healthcare, etc. It would still be “performative bullshit” in the sense that they don’t have the votes, but it would allow them to define a positive platform consistent with the public interest rather than simply running on being anti-Trump.
They won’t, because the interest groups opposing the public interests are too entrenched for them to even pretend to go against them, but it would certainly be better messaging than “vote for us, and we’ll impeach Trump (again, with no consequence).”
Just look at the reaction to the proposed minimum wage hike.
- “They’re only pushing this bill now because they know it won’t pass”
- “This will make inflation skyrocket”
- “This will kill small businesses”
Blah blah blah…
The same song and dance happens for every bill. Universal health care? “Boohoo my taxes, waiting lines, traaaaans…”
Abolish ICE [through budget whack a mole due to veto]? “Dems are destroying the country, another Dem shut down, they want illegals to take your job…”
Limit Iran war? “Unconstitutional, un-American, they hate the troops, antisemitic…”
There is one clear and obvious problem that is much harder to equivocate: the admin is shitting all over the constitution and lining their own pockets at our expense. The abductions are right there, the paper trail is right there, the election rigging is right there, the pedophilia is right there, the economic and material damage is everywhere.
it would certainly be better messaging than "vote for us, and we’ll impeach Trump…
Idk, being a contrarian got Trump elected after a brutal first term because eggs were expensive. You think it’s not gonna work with these gas prices??
If you care about policy then stump for progressives and call for corporate ghouls to get primaried. But when you’re talking about keeping a sliver of a chance to resuscitate the USA’s corpse then veto is the only answer.
Trying to get impeachable grounds on JD before moving on Trump?
Fuck this guy
Jefferies never was impressive to me
