I’m not pointing at the post this links to, or the reply I’ve linked to, but the surrounding context, including replies from the moderators telling them they’re not welcome.
But seriously, I haven’t seen this problem (since Wolfballs died), and it’s probably because I rarely look at All instances or scroll to the bottom of huge threads. Or maybe .ml has blocked where these bigots hang out? I really don’t know, just guessing here.-
A phenomenon recognized by other artists as well.
just “don’t be a dick, leave other human beings in peace” kind of common sense.
I would, but feminists didn’t leave atheism (2012) and then gaming (2014) alone. Probably other things before 2012 when I wasn’t aware, and now we are here.
How do these people still fucking exist? I can’t fathom anyone not outgrowing thunderf00t and The Amazing Atheist at this point.
I can’t fathom anyone not outgrowing thunderf00t
Including thunderf00t himself, seemingly. I can’t find any SJW videos since 2018, it’s mostly just anti-muskrat stuff now.
He quietly moved away from the anti-SJW thing, trying to make people forget he was all in on anti-feminism and hating Anita Sarkeesian, that was his whole thing for years, so fuck him.
Probably other things before 2012 when I wasn’t aware, and now we are here.
Looking into what no good feminist were up to before 2012.
That’s why I stopped looking other game communities in lemmy beside the one in hexbear and .ml. There’s always someone like this idiot commenting.
didn’t TAA outgrow TAA? or am i thinking of someone else
Yeah I think he turned lib and actually made a video addressing his past mistakes. Thunderf00t also pivoted from being the #1 Sarkeesian hater to the #1 Musk hater, which is definitely a more deserving target, but he just quietly shoved his anti-feminist past under the rug.
Did he ever address the disgusting things he said about SA, including directly to an SA victim?
No idea. I never watched a single full video from either of these people.
Me neither, everything I know about them is from other places. It’s well known that TAA had some very gross opinions on SA.
They always do.
Though its worst when they joke about how “oh everyone goes through that alt right phase teehee” like, great you learned but don’t be flippant about the shit you did. Makes me think they didn’t learn shit.
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damn, imagine being exposed to the worst redditors alive.
couldn’t be me - i’m so powerful the hitlerites had to hide me from view as a “preemptive last resort”
Dot world moderators when rage baiting tankies:
Dot world moderators when rage baiting misogynists:
posts in lemmy instance that tries so hard to be the next r*ddit
is surprised that it’s full of r*dditor losers
From personal experience posting my content on multiple platforms, Lemmy’s userbase is by far the most fragile one regarding sexism.
Yes, even worse than Reddit, where this very comic had its comment section locked by the rcomics mods due to the hundreds of pissed off dudes crying in the comments. At least they get downvoted on Reddit. Lemmy really is dudebro land, and needs to fix that if it wants to grow further (which I would like as a Lemmy enjoyer).
I’ve said this a few times already, and it usually makes Lemmy users uncomfortable, so I’ll keep repeating it as often as necessary.
yea i believe it, i didnt post it in slop/dunktank when it happen but west lemmy had a huge drama about the meme of “would you rather find a bear or man in a forest” feminists did, they literally started crying about misandry and being sexists and harrasing every woman lemmy they could find because of a meme
some of the most ridiculous misogynistic “erm actually men are the real victims so shut up about your oppression” takes i’ve seen have come from lemmitors
i honestly wouldn’t be on this platform at all if not for hexbear and lemmygrad; every other instance is either terminally MRA or just doesn’t care to take action against incel bullshit
I’m a man and I’d rather encounter a bear in the woods than a man. Men are by far the most dangerous and unpredictable demographic. You at least know how a bear is going to behave.
if we take the hypothetical literally i think it depends on the type of bear and whether you’re in the woods in the woods and are suddenly less than a meter a way or if it’s coming down the trail at a safe distance etc
there’s definitely overlap though which is the point. rather be 20 meters from a black bear than 20 meters from a person i didn’t expect to be in the same county, rather be 2 meters from most weird woods guys than 2 meters from a grizzly, but not all of them.
Yeah, i overthought it way too much when I first start getting viral. I was sitting there going, “well there’s a reason they keep their cars unlocked in Churchill, Manitoba.”
Just like when that meme was going around I feel the urge to say that I also pick the bear.
The comments on that thread are terrible. Why did I click? Why am I still reading?
Sometimes I forget that the average man is like this. Now I am forced to despair. How are we ever supposed to build a cooperative world when so many people have views like this?
average internet commenter man, anyway. the people who would be interested in building that better world have other things to do. and some of those will still be sex pests but previous socialist projects have made great strides in feminism and they were doing it with the men of their day who were probably more eminently dangerous on average than the current bottom third.
u got slop’d
anyway grab some eye-cleaner at /c/bloomer
Why am I still reading?
Why do I ever leave this website wtf
BEHOLD YOUR LOGIC APPLIED TO DIFFERENT MATERIAL CONDITIONS
I just want to feel good about being a man for one day.
Maybe consider why you see yourself reflected in criticism of men
Dumbasses never get that a ton of places are de facto men only because of the environment they create. But also yes, there are literally men’s social groups in my area that meet regularly to hang out and discuss issues relevant to them. Nobody cares. It’s only men that freak out when they aren’t allowed somewhere.
Join your local Freemason’s then you freak
I read way too much of that thread and then saw I was only like a quarter way down the page so I had to be done. How do people spend so much time reiterating the same arguments over and over? I didn’t read a single original or thought provoking take. It’s all just memetic back and forth.
We don’t do original takes on slop
Lemmy really is dudebro land, and needs to fix that if it wants to grow further (which I would like as a Lemmy enjoyer).
At the risk of being gender normative, a pink girly instance for women would be a kinda nice refuge and nothing that specifically aims to cater to women exists on lemmy at the moment.
To address the fact that every other space on lemmy is annoyingly male-dominated you would need to make a space that is women-only so that they can’t fuck it up and turn away all the women.
Hexbear probably has the highest number of women as a percentage of its total userbase compared to all other lemmy instances.
Coincidentally enough, since you mentioned it, a chunk of that thread was about the existence of a women’s-only comm on lemmy, I didn’t know it existed before either, and I am still not sure where exactly it is, but as could be predicted as surely as the setting sun there were numerous men complaining and/or raging about how they were politely asked not to comment there. To the credit of some, there were a few comments from men saying they accidentally commented there once, were asked not to, and happily obliged.
Edit. Seems to start here if you’re interested:
https://lemmy.ml/post/46277482/25296584
Even includes the same comic PorkrollPosadist posted here.raging about how they were politely asked not to comment there
They should do it like SRS used to do it.
It’s called WomensStuff and unfortunately it’s on the piefed Blahaj, so you can’t see it through Hexbear.
I assumed it wasn’t visible from hexbear, I was thinking it was probably on .world. But it’s not like piefed is any better. Edit. But thanks for pointing out where it is!
And the percentage is only getting higher as more of us transition, lol (I’m enby but still very girl)
I think that would be a great idea, but it would definently need a big mod team because it would get swarmed by misogynists from time to time
There is no way to make a “woman only” space that doesn’t become terf in some way. They always turn transphobic.
(Edit: in case it needs to be clarified you can’t do “male only” for the same reasons)
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I know from my first hand experience as a genderfluid person. All horror stories tend to be my own.
The very action of seperate the gender into binary is reactionary. Don’t even get me started how it always turns into bioessentialism.
Non binary people and intersex people have been speaking about this a lot. But we are mostly ignored because people would rather believe what feels good them and what they THINK. Then our lived experiences.
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They accept anyone who is a women, but do they accept anyone else?
Do they accept us who are not all the way women? Sometimes women? Or victems of patriarchy?
Do they accept eggs? Do they accept questioning people looking for answers and aacceptance?
The answer is always no. They view us either as evil men or women lite. They cannot fathom a world outside the gender binary and it always comes back to bite us in the ass.
It also always reduces feminism to radical “feminism”. Instead of fighting against the patriarchy to end it truly we always end up doing more white “feminism”. Where women are helpless and less capable then men. Women are perpetually victems and can never cause harm nor can they hold men accountable. Needless to say I find this premise tiring.
Feminism without intersectionality is not feminism at all.
I want to build allies of power, but its not going to be from those who stick to the idea of the gender binary. Women are more then helpless little baby makers. And I’m tired that this has become a radical take again.
You can have your women only spaces, but just like seeing the American Flag. Some of us will know that we will never be same in such spaces.
Women only spaces got my tooth knocked out. Women only spaces had me held down trying to force make up on me. Women only spaces had me hit and beat up multiple times. Women only spaces for some of us are places of sticks and stones against us.
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Why not create a space where everyone can be welcomed? Why do we have to buy into transphobia and patriarchy by always having to seperate?
Because that is what this is. Patriarchy. If you want to create a safe space. Focus on kicking out assholes based on their actions. You will never have a inclusive space when you are excluding based on arbitrary factors.
I believe in a world where we stop making excuses for men (and anyone else for that matter) and make them own up for any pain they do. This will never happen with this idea that women are weak and helpless and must always be protected little victems.
Once again this also goes into white feminism. See the example of all the times white women served both patriarchy and whitness by calling the cops on Black men. Before the camera the surveillance state was white women. This must also be recognized if you ever want to truly create a better world for everyone.
Once again feminism without intersectionality is not feminism.
What about how white women often don’t consider Black women real women because they “are inherently masculine”.
This is not a simple issue of “well we just have to disagree” these are basic understanding of how the world works through the lens of everyone who doesn’t fit neatly into your binary. By welcoming terf and patriarchy wrapped up in more pleasant wrapping.
If you want to create a better world. A safer world. It means tackling the people and the conditions that make it dangerous.
I’m done with this conversation though. I understand that you have your safe space illusion and that’s all that matters.
Your idea that we HAVE to have seperate spaces is no different how we must have separate sports. And we know how that goes. It’s the same thing. And it always leads back to the same circle ideas based on feelings then what is real and what could be real.
I don’t leave the local tab tbh
No reason to
Damn I gotta start posting here more for the local users.
Poked my head out a few times after HB federated and it was looking way too Reddity
You better… You… Better!
Forever anti federation
Or maybe .ml has blocked where these bigots hang out?
Those who can’t handle the existence of anybody to the left of a socdem probably already pushed their instance of choice to defed .ml I’m guessing, or just avoid those comms. They definitely defed from hexbear and lemmygrad. Not that we’ve never had our our own problems with misogyny or other forms of bigotry, but at least lately it’s nothing compared to these people.
Libs gonna lib
Op posts a simple observation
Mods: “that’s ragebait :)”
It’s like watching two braincells fighting for third place in that thread.
it’s because they’re all from
