This is after having tons of solar panels too LMAO

  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
    8·
    1 天前

    had the same. now I’m running more with less.

    got rid of my commercial grade servers and implemented consumer grade hardware that requires less power.

    I was running four whole dell R series for a total of around 5kw of power (four devices x 1kw psu + redundant).

    now I’m running two consumer grade servers with newer for efficient tech and smaller non-redundant psus. it should be sitting right around 1.2kw.

    the newer hardware can easily run what used to take a dedicated R series.

    next is to consolidate all my network infra.

  • meekah@discuss.tchncs.de
    16·
    1 天前

    This thread makes me question my 2,000kWh power bill, I don’t have any servers and always shut down my main PC over night. I do use a laptop as a media center that I don’t shut down, but I figured it can’t be using that much power.

    Maybe the main factor is me being in home office and using my PC about 12-14h a day? 😅

    Edit: Oh, I guess many people are talking monthly usage here. My number is over the last year, so I guess I’m not doing too bad

      • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.socialEnglish
        3·
        1 天前

        While bleak and terrible, I still think Biff’s future would be less shitty than Trump’s. I mean, Biff wasn’t getting dangerously close to starting WW3 or sending gestapo out to round up and deport non-whites. They do share being rapists in common, tho.

        • cm0002@lemy.lolOP
          2·
          1 天前

          Tbf, we only saw Biff after he already consolidated his global power, so we really don’t know if he did kick off WWIII to accomplish that lol

    • cm0002@lemy.lolOP
      35·
      2 天前

      Hmm I think you’re crossing into home datacenter territory.

      I’ve got some rookie numbers to pump up LMAO

      • bajabound@lemmy.world
        5·
        2 天前

        You’d think I’d have a few racks of equipment running… most of that is heating and cooling. Old drafty farm house with old inefficient heat pumps. Winter was damn cold this year.

        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          2·
          1 天前

          I have a modern house with modern a heat pump, and I agree this winter was pretty brutal, but nothing close to yours. Can I ask what you pay per KWh? I have to imagine you’re coming close to spending enough in energy to pay for some serious renovations on the house.

  • Axolotl@feddit.it
    9·
    2 天前

    similar heating source

    I highly doubt that, probably OP heating source are his servers

    • whyNotSquirrel@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      4·
      1 天前

      if you have gas or wood as a heating system and no electric cars?

      This month we have reach for the moment 398kWh, with quite a lot of powertools(compressor, woodworking equipment,…) , plus dryer/washers etc. But no electric heating/boiler, which is gas or wood.

    • Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      21·
      1 天前

      I do, most of the time. A while back I tracked my monthly electricity usage and it ranges from 200-700kWh a month. That includes cooking, heating and hot water too, one of the first things I did when getting my house was move everything to electricity and get the gas disconnected.

      • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip
        3·
        1 天前

        That’s surprising. I live in an area with no gas connections, so everything is electric. We average a little over 1000kwh a month every month.

        I do live in a hot place so we rely on air conditioning a lot, maybe that’s the difference.

        • Korhaka@sopuli.xyzEnglish
          1·
          1 天前

          Surprised it would be pretty much the same amount every month, does your area not really have a winter/summer?

          • BananaIsABerry@lemmy.zip
            3·
            1 天前

            DFW part of Texas, it’s mostly hot throughout the year. I let my thermostat get a bit warm when no one is home to save on energy cost there.

            The winters here get cold, but not that bad and not for very long so the heater doesn’t need to be on that much. Usage does go down during those months. We peak around 1400 or so in the hottest months.

            My usage is so consistent I happily took an energy plan that was more expensive unless my energy usage stays between 1000-2000 kwh, where they give a $100 usage credit.

  • picnic@lemmy.world
    3·
    1 天前

    Yeah I had something similar when I had my 24U rack somewhat half occupied some years ago. Nowadays I have the same occasionally as I have two electric cars.

    And I have a 10kWp solar system, too. So I can get by summertime with some <500kwh bills.

  • stuner@lemmy.world
    12·
    2 天前

    Uff…that’s close to my yearly electricity bill (including a home server/NAS). Energy consumption in the US is crazy.

      • stuner@lemmy.world
        3·
        2 天前

        No, not quite that low. It’s an x86 PC with multiple HDDs. It draws about 15W in idle, or about 130 kWh per year. It’s a substantial part of my electricity bill xD

  • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de
    3·
    1 天前

    Same here, but I run a projector and watch movies and play games on one wall of my room. The bulb sucks 330 watts to project that large of an image.

    I love being an irresponsible adult so much sometimes. :D

    • einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      1 天前

      330w is quite a lot for a projector, i assume thats a high pressure mercury lamp one?

      I recently switched to a laser one and the picture is still as bright but the power consumption is down by over 50%.

      Also after 2 times geting my face blasted by mercury vapors when the lamp exploded in the old one…i aint risking losing even more brain cells…there is a good reason the stopped selling those in the eu now

      • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.de
        3·
        1 天前

        Yes, it’s an older model that still uses those old lamps. I will probably switch over to a laser projector when it gives up the ghost, but so far, it works well.

        Thankfully, I never had a lamp explode on me. That sounds absolutely terrifying.

        • einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works
          2·
          1 天前

          Yeah on those projectors usually the lamp is what dies first, everything else in em could run for decades, i would advise on selling it while it still works to cover a bit of the price of a laser.

          That sounds absolutely terrifying.

          Yeah even thinking of it brings back that metallic taste in my mouth >.<

      • mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        1·
        1 天前

        Laser projectors also tend to have better color depth. Projector tech has actually progressed by leaps and bounds in the past decade, so people still using older projectors are really missing out.

        The one big problem they haven’t been able to solve is black levels. Because with a projector screen, your black level can only ever be as dark as the ambient light in the room.

    • cm0002@lemy.lolOP
      64·
      2 天前

      In most places in the US, basic home specs are public record and/or just floating around since the last time it was publicly listed for sale

        • cm0002@lemy.lolOP
          20·
          2 天前

          That too, but some jurisdictions put some guardrails for pulling full prior permits, when I wanted to pull all the historical permits for my house for my own records, I had to bring in some proof that I was either the owner, tenant or other interested party (like say a contractor who want to see the previous permits before doing their own work)

        • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
          10·
          2 天前

          Where I am in Germany, not only do they know all of that, but they come out every year to check it. This year, they showed up several days before they said they were going to, but when the guy walked in, he looked around, and then gave us a bunch of information about dealing with slum lords, lol.

          • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
            5·
            2 天前

            Are you perhaps confusing that with the heating meter checkers in appartment buildings? They actually need the living area for the billing and have a contract to do so with your landslumlord, and thereby you.

            Regarding the slumlord: The magic word is generally “Mietminderung”, I think.

            • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
              2·
              2 天前

              I’m not confusing it, that’s exactly what I’m talking about! They’re employed by the utility company in my city and contracted through the landlord. Are they completely independent from the utility company elsewhere?

              The apartment is not actually a huge problem, slightly better than a standard student apartment, it’s more that the guy was just drive-by judging my life.

              • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
                2·
                2 天前

                Typically you have a contract with the electricity company yourself, not via the landlord.
                He typically doesn’t know and doesn’t care from whom (or if at all) you get your electricity.

                Yours might be a special arrangement because of being a student apartment.

                • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
                  2·
                  2 天前

                  I have no idea how uncommon this is here and hope I’m not doxxing myself, but there’s only been one option (the city itself) in the ten+ apartments my husband and I have lived in in this city for water, electricity, and heat (though obviously there are options for using pellet stoves and similar things, but that doesn’t come up much in apartments), so I don’t know if I live in a weird place or if there’s just one city office exchange that serves as a middleman for multiple options.

                  Or I might just be misinterpreting you and you meant things like pellet stoves, fireplaces, etc. I guess I would have thought the Schornsteinfeger would have reported the heating method for your home to the city.

                  It’s not technically a student apartment, but it’s right next to campus and we’re definitely the first married couple to live there.

    • smh@slrpnk.net
      6·
      1 天前

      (USA) My flat just had its tax assessment done and that includes the floor area, heating source, and other things like how fancy your kitchen is (mine is “standard”, btw). That tax assessment is available online to everyone.

      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
        5·
        1 天前

        Soooo… there are openly available public databases containing information on how fancy a kitchen you own…?

        On one hand that’s completely hilarious.
        On the other hand that’s frighteningly dystopian.

        To say it with the latest officially elected German youth word: “Das crazy.”

        • smh@slrpnk.net
          3·
          1 天前

          Yep. For example, search for parcel “176-194-030” in the Hartford, CT tax assessor’s search. It should bring up a McDonald’s fast food building (I chose that because it’s less creepy than singling out some random person’s home.)

          Screenshot of the parcel info page

          There’s even a little drawing of the building. The purple is the first floor and the blue is the “canopy” or, I guess, awning outside. The “interior” tab on this site doesn’t list the kitchen quality, but does say the insulation is “typical” and 40% of the building has sprinklers. My guess is different cities and towns track different things in their tax assessments.

          Oh! IIRC, Germany has the thing where the kitchen doesn’t stay with the house. In the USA, they’re firmly attached.

          • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
            1·
            1 天前

            Coming from a country where even the streetview pictures have to be blurred if the people living there wish so, this uncompromising publication of people’s home information is totally fascinating!

            And also I am wondering now, what a half and a 3/4 bath is… ;-)

            BTW: While it is true, that the kitchen is not part of a German house or flat, it nonetheless typically is also firmly attached (big screws into our rather solid brick walls).

            And contrary to exaggerating Youtube-clips, in most cases it stays and is privately and quietly sold by one tenant to the next, out of obvious practical considerations.

            Also because of the “does not belong to the building” rule, when buying a home, it is a good idea to estimate the value of an existing kitchen at the upper end and reduce the official price for the rest of the home accordingly, thereby reducing the estate sales tax by a few bucks. (Sales tax is only for the building, and the kitchen does not belong to the building, so…)

            • smh@slrpnk.net
              2·
              1 天前

              a half bath is a toilet+sink. A 3/4 bath is a toilet, sink, and shower (but not a tub). 3/4 bath can be fuzzy: if it’s the only bathroom in the home, it will often be called a full bath.

              I’m not sure if we had to pay an estate sales tax when we bought this place. We pay town taxes every 6 months automatically through our mortgage. We also paid a recording fee for the town to record the condo sale. There were a lot of fees, tbh.

              And yes, you got me, I heard about German kitchens from YouTube.

              • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
                2·
                1 天前

                Overall buyer fees are unfortunately quite high in Germany, can be up to ~10% of the property price. Add to that the fact that houses or flats are generally more expensive than in the States, you quickly have additional costs of 50000€ or more (would be roughly the same in $) even for a small estate, which you can not cover by the credit, but have to pay in liquid cash.
                This is a major hurdle for many and a likely part of the reason why so many people live in rented apartments here instead of buying.

    • Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      23·
      2 天前

      Besides what others have said, they’d know the capabilities of the address when it’s built, at a minimum, as they’re responsible for providing the infrastructure to deliver power to it.

      I really don’t get why you’re asking this - they need to know what a facility is capable of to manage and plan power delivery.

      As an aside, graphs like this are wildly wrong. Mine says the comparison is made between residences from 0.5 to 1.5 times the size of mine, within a 7 mile radius. So it includes apartments downtown who’s heat is steam, and each unit insulates each other, and the building has a dozen to 100 bodies in it, heating it up.

      That makes for a completly irrelevant comparison.

      • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
        5·
        2 天前

        they need to know what a facility is capable of to manage and plan power delivery.

        But that’s a single value measured in Ampere.

        The size in square feet is something completely irrelevant to know.

        And even the Ampere value is only relevant for the local provider that connects to your house, not for the company selling you the actual electric energy.

        The company selling me electricity knows nothing about me but my electric meter ID.

          • Multiplexer@discuss.tchncs.de
            2·
            2 天前

            Lighting load on new construction homes is calculated based on square footage.

            That doesn’t even make sense as it treads someone just putting up a single 5W bulb the same as someone having an indoor hemp plantation or heavy machine shop in their basement.

            • TwiddleTwaddle@lemmy.blahaj.zone
              3·
              2 天前

              Well the NEC still uses wattages from old incandescent bulbs for general lighting load calcs, plus there’s always a reasonable amount of overspeccing built into the calculation.

              You would then add any large loads specifically. Clothes drier, oven, fridge, HVAC, anything that comes with a nameplate wattage rating should be included in the load calc.

              Most utilities these days will also just round up to a 200A service for anything larger than a trailer. Big houses would get multiples of 200A services if needed.

    • lyralycan@sh.itjust.works
      4·
      2 天前

      It seems very common in the US to get these mailed by the supplier. This one seems to be a blueprint for National Grid, and is similar to a post from this house light show co. on Facebook

    • kungen@feddit.nu
      31·
      2 天前

      I think they forgot to mention the huge tomato farm they have in their basement. Tons of lights and special ventilation setup. Tastes much better than what you can get at the grocery store of course.

    • cm0002@lemy.lolOP
      15·
      2 天前

      Like 3 or 4 1u/2u servers equipped with a couple GPUs, plus a tape library lol

      • Kairos@lemmy.today
        4·
        2 天前

        It’s not obvious before you do the math but a 500 watt homelab is basically a large air conditioner. The AC is just on ⅓ of the time ½ of the year.

        • cm0002@lemy.lolOP
          8·
          2 天前

          Lol I’ve got like 2-3 ACs then 😂

          I have to split power between 3 different circuits that are near my office in order to keep each one within the 80% rule in the event I’m putting heavy load on them

          …I really need to get an electrician out to put in a 240 line 😅…

          • xthexder@l.sw0.com
            3·
            2 天前

            I’ve been measuring my server rack’s power usage, and it usually sits at around 500W with a 1U + 2U server (and GPU). My plan for the 1U has been to colocate it, but it’s an extra $25/month for each 100W increment, so I’ve been trying things like lowering the CPU power limit to save some money. Apparently turning my 200W EPYC CPU down to 150W barely makes a difference in my workloads, but that 50W is enough to save me quite a bit.

            • dai@lemmy.world
              1·
              2 天前

              Man what are you paying per kwh? I’m averaging ~$0.21 AUD using a supplier who offers a variable market wholesale price.

              I’d thought my rack was a bit of a hog with a z390 9900k and erying es system, but checking my current usage it’s vibing at 180kwh~

              At 9:20 pm my rack has set me back $0.80 for the day (excluding misc connection fees and so forth). Most of my daily use would be in heating / cooling with two split systems & the wife WFH.

              • xthexder@l.sw0.com
                1·
                1 天前

                I’m in the PNW and pay about US$0.17/kWh at home, but for the data center rates, they charge based on peak usage because that’s how they size cooling and generator backups. Guaranteed redundant power and networking is just a lot more expensive than residential power.