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I feel like Lemmy is starting to have a real problem with houlier-than-thou posting.
Life is fucking shit, if people want to cope through that with a little recreational drug use, let them enjoy that small pleasure. If you don’t want to vape, more power to you, just don’t act like it makes you better than them.
It’s just a joke based on a stereotype. It’s not that deep.
My bad, I was talking about comments in the thread, nit the meme itself.
I once insinuated that I hated the smell of vapes and people downvoted me, saying “noooo but blueberry muffin flavour actually smells so goooood”
Yeah okay buddy, I think you’re one of the ones I’d find wandering the streets vaping in front of everyone
Edit: to the people currently downvoting me, you guys do know vaping can also give you cancer and increases your risk of respiratory disease, right? And by vaping in front of other people you’re forcing that risk on to them, right? Grow a little empathy
This is true, but it’s so much better than walking through cig smoke, or smelling that shit in someone’s car, or the nightmare of walking into someone’s house that has tar all over the walls and furniture because they smoke in the house.
I’ll take mass replacement of cigs with vape any day.
It’s better poison, but it’s still poison -A former vaper…vapist?
There are people that are addicted to a drug the government will not regulate because they are taxing the shit out of the addicted. Grow a little empathy.
Especially for the vapers because they allready diminish the harm to them and others. The exoust fumes of the car beside you are many more times dangerous than the passive vape you could inhale.
I’m specifically calling out people who downvoted me for saying I don’t like the smell of vapes
I’m honestly with you, I think cigarette and vape sales should be criminalised, smokers are being taken advantage of both by the government and the smoko sellers
Let’s give the government more control of our bodies. Great idea!
Me, trying to figure out how trying to stop people taking a highly addictive drug that meets none of our needs is control over our body:
Prohibition is a terrible idea.
There is no direct evidence vaping causes cancer.
The main components of vape juice are polyene glycol and vegetable glycerin. Both of which are completely benign and added into many every day products. And before vaping nicotine was a thing, it has been used as a safe drug delivery method for decades.
To say there’s no direct evidence is disingenuous. Yes, there are no peer reviewed articles that directly correlate vaping and cancer chance, but guess what there also isn’t? Studies that say they’re safe
The reason for this is simple: there’s about a 14 year delay between any smoking changes and lung cancer presenting itself. Extrapolate that to three trials, and you’re looking at minimum 50 years before it can hit shelves
What is known about vapes is that they contain many of the same carcinogens found in cigarettes, which should be a red flag to most people
What is known about vapes is that they contain many of the same carcinogens found in cigarettes, which should be a red flag to most people
Not true at all. Vapes don’t contain any known carcinogens.
According to cancer.org.au
For example, propylene glycol and glycerine found in e-cigarettes when overheated can produce dangerous levels of the carcinogens formaldehyde and acetaldehyde.
And it was found the study ran the batteries in an unsafe manner, as in no one would use their vape like that because they had to go around the safeties.
I was with you until you tried to lecture people on what’s bad for them or not. Yes people know. Lots of things are bad for you, they are adults.
Did you know science has proven that being on social media is bad for you?
If they banned drinking coffee indoors, you’d see people greedily and overzealously tapping the bottom of the cup for the last drop of precious magic fluid to touch their quivering tongue before entering a building.
Incidentally I’ll take the smell of a fruit vape cloud over coffee sphincter breath all day long.
Well one smell is one you don’t like, the other actually damages your (and everyone around you) health.
I bet it’s not more and even neutral compared to the shit you breathe in when city commuting lol
Everyone is acting like they’re blowing it directly in your face… Walk down a city street and you just inhaled a ton of shit, but no one says anything lol. Hell, opening a window in an office in some towns with their are quality would be more damaging. But the vape, that’s the problem.
Also the point stands, tons of people are addicted to coffee and act generally the same. I don’t know why people just love acting each other over everything.
Why do smokers of all kinds have to smoke right in front of the door of every fucking building?
Because they’re selfish inconsiderate pricks who can’t fathom how disgusting they truly are.
I remember when they did it INSIDE buildings. And cars. Schools, hospitals… if you lived through the 80’s you just have the pervasive smell of tobacco registered as a prime core memory.
I use to live in Vegas as a child occasionally. We’d sometimes go to the casinos for shows and have to cross The Floor
I can still feel it on my skin decades and decades later
At my apartment buulding they stand right in front of the no smoking sign at the front step to the building on the building’s property where smoking is not allowed. If they stabd 5 ft over, they’re on the sidewalk where it’s okay.
But nope, they have to stand right there.
Probably because they’re addicted, enjoy the high, and don’t have the means or strength of character to quit.
Or they have undiagnosed ADHD and haven’t associated the effect of nicotine with their seminormality mask they can only maintain with legal stimulants.
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In the trash where you belong
Exhibit number #62049 of lemmings having the most insane fucking takes to ever grace the information superdumpster
Every smoker I’ve met gets very defensive about “why can’t I breathe my toxic fumes on everyone else?? What’s the big deal?? And then they get so mad when I litter like get over yourself”
Smoking in public is indefensible. There are smoking cessation programs.
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What the fuck is your logic? “I get a right to air, so I will pollute it for you.”
[Person shitting in a public pool]
“Its called a public pool for a reason. I have a right to this water as much as you don’t like it.”
You probably watch YouTube with the sound on and no headphones in public, too.
God I hate those people.
I think you’re confused - seems like you think that a public place is your private space. Public space is a place where people need to consider OTHER people. You just proved OPs point.
Agreed. Vaping on the other hand is fine and with how many people vape now thankfully not something anyone has any remaining institutional power to enforce a ban on, so glad I can puff on the train in peace now
I don’t think the fumes from vaping are especially safe or welcome, either. At least there’s no littering, though
Any place where you don’t force your smoke upon people who have no choice about being there. It’s not that hard: Don’t make your smoking anybody else’s problem.
Or, if this is more your style of communicating: Up your ass.
Because that tiny overhang is the only goddamn shade/rain shelter in this entire city block. People love designating “that spot over there” as the smoking spot but hate putting any sort of shelter from the elements.
Go get wet fucker, I give no fucks, you chose to smoke not me.
So? Whoever brought the cigarettes should bring a jacket or umbrella too.
That spot “over there” is so the smelly smoke can also stay “over there” and not end up in the lungs of healthy people.
Noooooo you can’t use smoking you must doomscroll social media and consoom products!!! You can’t be getting dopamine from chemicals you MUST CONSOOOM PRODUCT!!!
Bro, Imma be honest, as a nicotine addict, I wouldnt encourage anyone get on it. You start seeing nicotine as a stimulant that you “need” to get through difficult tasks, or tasks that need focus, or shit, maybe you even need to game a bit better because you’re sleep deprived(caused by the nicotine) and having an extra stimulant alongside some caffeine might help. You start using it to get through stuff, and then because of withdrawals, that “”“”“justifies”“”“” your use of it to get through stuff even more. Not to mention nicotine’s bad effects on your gum health and cardiovascular health.
By the way, for anyone reading this, fuck vaping. Harder to quit than smoking because a lot of people get nicotine salt disposables, or their mental process when in withdrawal/craving phase is “oh it’s just vapor, not smoke which is carcinogenic, one more hit couldn’t hurt”. Which is true, smoke, tar, combustion, etc is the main cancer causing part of nicotine, but thinking of it like that doesn’t help you quit.
Don’t smoke, don’t vape. Longest I’ve lasted is a month so far, and that’s because I threw my little nic salt pen and carts away.
Edit Addendum: Btw, this is typed by a mofo who is still vaping, I relapsed. I fell into that same line of logic above. “I need it to get through work” type shit
I bring words of encouragement: Fuck yeah. Any hit you don’t take is a win, so keep at it!
I struggle with alcohol and I’m not gonna drink today again. Maybe skip a hit for a stranger on the internet, and the world’ll keep a couple lights a little longer.
It’s water vapor dudes, just do it inside.
PG/VG are
oils not waterhuh til they’re actually just viscous liquids called diols that contain two alcohol groups! still not water thoughYou think that cloud of smoke coming out of people’s mouth is oil?
I don’t care about vapes, but not everyone wants secondhand smoke
Shit lingers for a while too
There’s a reason why we did away with the tobacco designated areas in buildings, the same applies to vapes
It’s literally not smoke, that’s what I’m saying. It’s fucking water vapor. There’s no harm, and it’s literally undetectable aside from a brief smell of whatever it’s flavored with.
Equating vapes with tobacco is so stupid. There is zero (0) tobacco in a vape.
Yes but there IS nicotine in most vapes, which is the harmful part
That crazy myth needs to die. Nicotine is approximately as harmful as caffeine. Highly addictive but not particularly harmful itself. Tobacco and all the chemicals they put in cigarettes are the stuff that gives you cancer.
[…]
In normal cells, nicotine can stimulate properties consistent with cell transformation and the early stages of cancer formation, such as increased cell proliferation, decreased cellular dependence on the extracellular matrix for survival, and decreased contact inhibition. Thus, the induced activation of nAChRs in lung and other tissues by nicotine can promote carcinogenesis by causing DNA mutations. Through its tumor promoter effects, it acts synergistically with other carcinogens from automobile exhausts or wood burning and potentially shorten the induction period of cancers.
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Who cares, it doesn’t even smell like anything, let alone in the ballpark of cigs
I am more annoyed by stinky heavy perfumes. Let’s tell people who enter buildings smelling like whole periodic table to think about their life.
I am routinely pinching my nose with my fingers near them and staring but they rarely get the memo.
Nothing worse when someone enters on 0 floor and you smell C16H14O2 on the tenth
As someone who does vape, I can tell you for a fact it does leave a residue. It takes a LONG time to build up, and even then it’s only really noticeable on transparent things like glass, but it’s a pain to clean off without specific cleaners. Otherwise it looks perpetually smeared. Best to avoid it so the employees don’t have to guess why their windows won’t clean right.
Well to be honest if it was perfectly acceptable it would lose its flavour. Sometimes we just do things we can get away with and that’s the whole charm. Make it commonplace smoke clouds everywhere and it’s just lame
Legalise weed and suddenly it is not that fun because avoiding the police was the whole half of the charm
Make illegal to drink water and suddenly everyone is over hydrated
It’s just such a feeling to do things you technically are forbidden. Some kind of intoxicating drug in itself. I don’t even like incest but it’s so taboo that it becomes extremely hot hence the certain indie game popularity
We love the forbidden
Sometimes I even think communist regime coming back wouldn’t be that bad because we could have the pleasure of personal rebellion. Voting is pleasurable and all but it doesn’t pack the same punch.
I am very jealous of Americans in 2025. Me here, I already live in as perfect country as it gets so it’s hard to find a good thing to protest but you have a prime opportunity over and over from BLM to other things.
Well one can always annoy Chinese 🇨🇳 gov dogs as they seem to feel a bit too comfortable online lately
You seem like the type whose college-age room is covered in blacklight posters, and tells their younger sibling’s friends about how the Mayans invented cell phones.
I didn’t expect to be showered in compliments today, thank you
