• gmtom@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    I feel like Lemmy is starting to have a real problem with houlier-than-thou posting.

    Life is fucking shit, if people want to cope through that with a little recreational drug use, let them enjoy that small pleasure. If you don’t want to vape, more power to you, just don’t act like it makes you better than them.

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    I once insinuated that I hated the smell of vapes and people downvoted me, saying “noooo but blueberry muffin flavour actually smells so goooood”

    Yeah okay buddy, I think you’re one of the ones I’d find wandering the streets vaping in front of everyone

    Edit: to the people currently downvoting me, you guys do know vaping can also give you cancer and increases your risk of respiratory disease, right? And by vaping in front of other people you’re forcing that risk on to them, right? Grow a little empathy

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      There is no direct evidence vaping causes cancer.

      The main components of vape juice are polyene glycol and vegetable glycerin. Both of which are completely benign and added into many every day products. And before vaping nicotine was a thing, it has been used as a safe drug delivery method for decades.

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        To say there’s no direct evidence is disingenuous. Yes, there are no peer reviewed articles that directly correlate vaping and cancer chance, but guess what there also isn’t? Studies that say they’re safe

        The reason for this is simple: there’s about a 14 year delay between any smoking changes and lung cancer presenting itself. Extrapolate that to three trials, and you’re looking at minimum 50 years before it can hit shelves

        What is known about vapes is that they contain many of the same carcinogens found in cigarettes, which should be a red flag to most people

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          What is known about vapes is that they contain many of the same carcinogens found in cigarettes, which should be a red flag to most people

          Not true at all. Vapes don’t contain any known carcinogens.

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            According to cancer.org.au

            For example, propylene glycol and glycerine found in e-cigarettes when overheated can produce dangerous levels of the carcinogens formaldehyde and acetaldehyde.

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              And it was found the study ran the batteries in an unsafe manner, as in no one would use their vape like that because they had to go around the safeties.

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      There are people that are addicted to a drug the government will not regulate because they are taxing the shit out of the addicted. Grow a little empathy.

      Especially for the vapers because they allready diminish the harm to them and others. The exoust fumes of the car beside you are many more times dangerous than the passive vape you could inhale.

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    A lot of them also vape in the building when they think they won’t get caught

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      Who cares, it doesn’t even smell like anything, let alone in the ballpark of cigs

      I am more annoyed by stinky heavy perfumes. Let’s tell people who enter buildings smelling like whole periodic table to think about their life.

      I am routinely pinching my nose with my fingers near them and staring but they rarely get the memo.

      Nothing worse when someone enters on 0 floor and you smell C16H14O2 on the tenth

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        As someone who does vape, I can tell you for a fact it does leave a residue. It takes a LONG time to build up, and even then it’s only really noticeable on transparent things like glass, but it’s a pain to clean off without specific cleaners. Otherwise it looks perpetually smeared. Best to avoid it so the employees don’t have to guess why their windows won’t clean right.

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          Well to be honest if it was perfectly acceptable it would lose its flavour. Sometimes we just do things we can get away with and that’s the whole charm. Make it commonplace smoke clouds everywhere and it’s just lame

          Legalise weed and suddenly it is not that fun because avoiding the police was the whole half of the charm

          Make illegal to drink water and suddenly everyone is over hydrated

          It’s just such a feeling to do things you technically are forbidden. Some kind of intoxicating drug in itself. I don’t even like incest but it’s so taboo that it becomes extremely hot hence the certain indie game popularity

          We love the forbidden

          Sometimes I even think communist regime coming back wouldn’t be that bad because we could have the pleasure of personal rebellion. Voting is pleasurable and all but it doesn’t pack the same punch.

          I am very jealous of Americans in 2025. Me here, I already live in as perfect country as it gets so it’s hard to find a good thing to protest but you have a prime opportunity over and over from BLM to other things.

          Well one can always annoy Chinese 🇨🇳 gov dogs as they seem to feel a bit too comfortable online lately

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    Why do smokers of all kinds have to smoke right in front of the door of every fucking building?

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          Exhibit number #62049 of lemmings having the most insane fucking takes to ever grace the information superdumpster

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            Every smoker I’ve met gets very defensive about “why can’t I breathe my toxic fumes on everyone else?? What’s the big deal?? And then they get so mad when I litter like get over yourself”

            Smoking in public is indefensible. There are smoking cessation programs.

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              Agreed. Vaping on the other hand is fine and with how many people vape now thankfully not something anyone has any remaining institutional power to enforce a ban on, so glad I can puff on the train in peace now

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              It’s called public space for a reason. Your logic is completely inverted. I get a right to the air as much as you, don’t like it --> fuck off somewhere else, better yet don’t leave the house