Interestingly, unlike cases where publication like this was in the public interest, as with Reality Winner, Elon Musk has yet to be arrested.

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    So I have a stupid and ignorant question to ask:

    I’ve seen arguments online stating that We The People cannot band together to sue Elon for accessing our personal information because he has been given “permission” by the president so to speak.

    But

    Can we sue him for being an illegal immigrant who is accessing our personal information?

    Just hypothetical mind you.

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    Remember people that are completely full of shit are most often… Completely full of shit. Demand evidence for every claim and don’t accept false premises.

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    This is how you know the current administration is wholly corrupt: Even when Elon Musk does blatantly illegal things, the DoJ won’t prosecute him. Trump doesn’t care that this is illegal.

    It is so stupid that the prosecution of federal crimes can be politically co-opted like this.

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      Prosecution for leaking of classified information is complicated.

      Because… the inherent act of doing so confirms that something was classified information. Instead they are either talked to behind the scenes or they get black helicoptered.

      There is also the argument that the POTUS is the be all end all of what is and is not classified and since musk is basically the POTUS. Optimally there is paperwork associated with this but it gets into one of those wonderful “gentleman’s agreement” grey zones.

      That is why you’ll never see someone get charges filed against them for admitting that nixon was actually killed by aliens from Rygel 7 and replaced with an android. Instead they will just

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        This is a fantasy. People get charged for leaking classified information all the time. It’s just a crime, not a spy thriller.

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          People get charged for the act of leaking classified information. Hell, our president (ugh) did.

          But the key is that what they actually leaked is never discussed outside of closed door sessions. And it is almost always as part of a lesser, easier to prove, treason or espionage case.

          But actually charging someone because they talked about the space aliens? THAT becomes a huge problem. And that is what we are looking at here.

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            We are very much not taking about space aliens and “people get charged but the court case doesn’t release classified information” is very different from them not getting charged or getting disappeared.

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        the inherent act of doing so confirms that something was classified information.

        Does it? You can investigate to verify if there was a “leak” - aka some communication happened, and if it did, whether it was classified or just a dick pic

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      We should allow any 1 of the 50 states prosecute the federal gov. Its the only way to balance stuff out if the President is the person making all the appointments

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    Hours after this story published, a White House spokesperson said in a statement that DOGE did not share classified information ― even as NRO’s classified information was still accessible on DOGE’s website.

    “DOGE did not share classified information, any assertion to the contrary is a lie,” said the spokesperson. “Yesterday the accusation was DOGE was not transparent and today the accusation is DOGE is too transparent. Stop the fearmongering, DOGE’s mission remains to cut waste, fraud, and abuse and are doing so with the proper security clearances and following the law.”

    Lmao peak professionalism guys.

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    Imagine if Kamala had gotten elected, chose her own personal gremlin, and then unleashed it to do this crap.

    Conservatives would be livid!

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      There probably are a lot of livid conservatives but we’re not going to hear about it. They rig the elections and they rig the media coverage.

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      “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

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    If you look through the DOGE twitter page he’s screenshooting canceled contracts and it’ll have the name and email of the persons that approved such projects. Totally illegal

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    I cannot do jury duty anymore.

    Sorry.

    I cannot be impartial in this justice system.

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      I hate when people talk about getting out of jury duty. If you think the system is bad, jury duty is on of the few ways you can actually have a direct personal impact on it.

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        And “smart” people that make good money always get out of it. Leaving the jury pool in a sorry state. I’ve even heard it said that if you can’t get out of jury duty, you’re an idiot. Fuck Americans.

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      That’s probably a good way to get out of it…

      I don’t feel that our justice system is fair to everyone. People who are of non-white origin, non native or people who have a net worth of less than 1 million dollars do not get the treatment / benefits as people who do not fit in this group. Everyone in this court room is being unfairly treated by our justice system… you, me, them… Everybody. And until those who have are treated the same as those who have not… The have nots are not guilty.

      Or what ever… someone more eloquent than I could probably whip that into a class warfare rant.

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    Musk’s latest circus act—pumping Doge with one hand while juggling national security clearances with the other—perfectly encapsulates our modern dystopia. The man treats classified protocols like Twitter reply guys, reducing state secrets to meme stock collateral. But let’s not pretend this is about one unhinged billionaire—this is the natural endpoint of a system that rewards algorithmic dopamine hits over actual governance.

    The real joke? Regulators scrambling to apply 20th-century securities laws to 21st-century shitposting. We’ve built a financial infrastructure where “to the moon” has more market sway than quarterly earnings reports. Meanwhile, the plebs keep lining up for their daily breadcrumbs of crypto-hopium, blissfully unaware they’re just NPCs in Musk’s open-world RPG.

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      The crowd had gathered there to watch him fall, to watch their hopes destroyed

      They watched them beat him, they watched them break him, they watched his last defense deployed

      There was not a man among them who would let himself be heard

      But from the crowd, from their collective fear, arose these broken words:

      We are the dead

      We are the dead

      What have we done? (We are the dead)

      What will we do? (We are the dead)

      Where will we turn? (We are the dead)

      Is there nothing we can do? (We are the dead)

      How did it come to this? (We are the dead)

      How did we go so wrong? (We are the dead)

      We are the dead (We are the dead)

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        The poetry of despair is a fitting echo, but let’s not drown in the dirge just yet. The crowd you describe—beaten, broken, voiceless—isn’t just a passive victim; it’s an accomplice to its own undoing. They didn’t just watch; they cheered, they invested, they memed their way into this collapse. The “we” you invoke isn’t tragic—it’s complicit.

        What have we done? We’ve traded agency for spectacle, governance for algorithms, and meaning for memes. The dead you mourn aren’t gone—they’re scrolling, refreshing, and buying the next lie. If there’s nothing we can do, it’s because we’ve chosen comfort over consequence.

        So yes, “we are the dead,” but only because we’ve decided it’s easier than living with purpose.

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            I genuinely thought it was some random prose—didn’t realize it was a song. Either way, the sentiment stands. Whether lyrics or not, it’s a mirror to the mess we’re in.

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    Who cares if this ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT who is STEALING AMERICANS JOBS posts CLASSIFIED INFORMATION Freely online? He’s RICH!

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    “…said one Defense Intelligence Agency employee, who requested anonymity to avoid retaliation from senior leaders.”

    Because of course they do, because conservatives just a bunch of vindictive school children who would sell their own mothers to slavery just because they said they couldn’t have ice cream for breakfast.