Here’s the link but honestly not worth reading

https://archive.ph/zuMGa

Except for this

Critics maintain that the rapid and large-scale expenditure of munitions has “wrung out” U.S. power and that Washington’s inability to subdue Iran sends a message of American weakness around the world. On the contrary, the war showed that the United States is still willing and able to engage in large-scale military action. Russian President Vladimir Putin or Chinese President Xi Jinping cannot safely assume the Pentagon will stay on the sidelines if they attack NATO or Taiwan.

The war also gave the U.S. military the opportunity to practice. China’s People’s Liberation Army has not fought a war in decades. The Pentagon just conducted a months-long exercise in Iran of new tactics and technology that will be useful in a future conflict in Europe or Asia.

anya-heh

  • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    Pentagon just conducted a months-long exercise in Iran

    Wow what a fucking ghoul, excercise in what? Murdering kids, political assassinations and taking huge geopolitical and economical L’s? China must be trembling right now.

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          The F-16 is protected under the The Military Hardware Rights Act that’s part of the The MIC Conservation Act

          The F-16 needs free access to at least a few thousand hectares of open airspace, a steady supply of fuel and bombs. They also need access to civilian infrastructure for comfort-bombings, preferable hospitals, schools and water-treatment plants or a healthy mix of all.

          Regarding predators:

          For a long time researchers believed enemy anti-aircraft systems was the biggest threat to the F-16, but recent studies have shown that the most common cause for loss of stock is their own AA-systems and mild rain.

          very-smart

  • The Pentagon just conducted a months-long exercise in Iran of new tactics and technology that will be useful in a future conflict in Europe or Asia.

    It goes both ways, dude. China and Russia just got a great look into the US’s capabilities and tactics without firing a single bullet, and you have no idea what they’re training on or what they’re capable of lol.

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    smuglord “Sure Iran blew the US out of the water in *lists every militarily relevant metric*, but we absolutely OWNED in children blown up in school. And according to Holden Bloodfeast’s “War Crimes Points” those are worth sooo much!”

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    Epic Fury traded the destruction of the military of the world’s leading terrorist state for an increase in energy prices that will ultimately subside. That is a good trade.

    Well, I can’t deny that it caused a lot of damage to the military of the world’s leading terrorist state, I’ll give him that.

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    The war also gave the U.S. military the opportunity to practice. China’s People’s Liberation Army has not fought a war in decades.

    IDK… I don’t think the nation that has constatnly been at war for decades is in need of more opportunities to “practice”. Not fighting wars seems like that smarter thing to do. But what would I know? I’m not being paid 6-7 figures to write shit like this.

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      A lot of Americans in the military and political elite genuinely seem to think that they need to wage at least one major war every ten years lest they risk becoming too soft. They compare it to exercising and staying fit. “If you don’t use the military they lose their edge over time.”

      To a normal person that just wants peace this mentality is hard to understand but this is how a lot of these people think.

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        I’ve known of people that would go around instigating fights on the street late at night to keep their skills up, the US is a drunk and racist street hooligan.

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        Also all the wars we keep fighting to stay in shape are against unorganized tribal groups with 60 year old aks and no air support. Turns out when it’s an actual army we can’t even carve out a foothold.

        It’d be like saying you gotta stay in fighting shape for boxing so you head down to the local pre-k to roundhouse some toddlers and still somehow manage to break your foot in the process.

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      I’m sure getting owned by cheap mass produced drones and missiles was surely a learning experience that will help them fight a country that has the ability to mass produce…

      Hypersonic missiles…

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    Alright soldiers, you did a good job getting your ass kicked training with Iran. Now we’re ready for the big leagues. Get ready to take on the super power that sells us all the things we need to make our shit.

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      oh and can also do all the things we can do, plus probably some things we can’t yet do.

      and also they’ll probably take out our space toys so we’ll have to do it all blind, but we just proved we can do this!

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    The recent chapo episode where they dunked on this was quite funny. Getting your ass beat and saying to the biggest onlooker as you’re carted away to hospital “i hope you saw that you’re next”

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    China’s People’s Liberation Army has not fought a war in decades.

    Something interesting the PLA does that never factors into these people’s assessments though is bring in vets from other countries’ wars to help train their people and work on their processes. Back in the 2010s one of the most lucrative career paths for American military pilots was to resign their commission and go to China to be an instructor (technically this is illegal, so they would do it through civilian companies on the sly, and of course the American government has a big problem with it).

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      This loss against a much smaller guy in boxing only makes me stronger for when I have to sword fight a much larger guy (who happens to sell me most of my shit for cheap so I can afford to buy groceries and keep the lights on)

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    Amazing to look at how a country of 90 million people kicked America’s ass and think it proves the US could beat a country of 1,410 million.

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    Practice fighting in a war. Which amounts to what exactly? How would the European or Pacific theatre be remotely comparable to the west Asia theatre? The conditions aren’t comparable at all. This is like say that you are better prepared for your math test cause you got a 20/100 on your English test

  • i am once again stating that the point of this war was just to be at war with an enemy. the question of winning or losing doesn’t even apply to this war, since it was declared and prosecuted (and will continue to be prosecuted when we inevitably break the ceasefire) purely for the purpose of being in The News and delivering some Spectacular Violence to the hogs

      • im sure that’s what trump wanted to do. but i don’t believe the entire capitalist class thought “doing a venezuela” to iran was possible. they’ve seen the results of the millenium challenge just as much as we have, they knew ahead of time that that would be impossible. after the failed decapitation attempt there was no reason to continue with a real war (imo) other than for spectacle

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    So their argument is just “This war was so pointless and awful that it sends the world a clear message, we’ll attack anyone, anywhere, for no benefit to us, just because we can. We’re the good guys world police btw.”