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  • It is true that socialism and the caste system are fundamentally incompatible. But the question is which needs to come first? Do you first have to get rid of the caste system to have a socialist revolution or do you need a socialist revolution to get rid of the caste system? A sort of chicken-and-egg problem, if you will.

    I'm thinking here of historical examples such as the feudal-patriarchal social order that existed in pre-revolutionary China. Did the revolution require women to be liberated and feudalism to be abolished before it could happen or could the liberation of women and abolition of feudalism only happen once the revolution had succeeded?

    In fact what happened was both essentially took place at the same time. The revolutionaries pushed for land reforms, women's equality and dissolution of the old aristocratic system and this in turn made the success of the revolution possible as it rallied more people to the cause and convinced them that this was the force which was fighting for their objective material interests.

    Obviously this didn't happen overnight and it wasn't just willed into existence by having the correct ideological line and someone speaking the correct words. It took decades of real on-the-ground struggle, communists working alongside the people and to convince them of the necessity of these changes. People also had to experience what didn't work and didn't deliver on its promises, which in China's case was the nationalist path.

    Perhaps India needs to experience first the failure of the neoliberal path.

  • To me the issue with the strikes, as i said, appears to be that they were defensive actions rather than offensive. The government tries to implement neoliberal policies which would harm the people and this provokes a response: people protest and try to mobilize to stop it.

    The problem when you always play defense is that you can at most stall the enemy's advance, never roll it back. And eventually the protests weaken or die down and the government still implements the neoliberal reforms, even if slower or temporarily in a more diluted form.

    The people need to start taking the initiative and organize proactively. Demands need to be made for something and not just against something. And this needs to happen under a sustained, long term, organized and ideologically coherent movement rather than a spontaneous, single-issue uprising.

    This cannot be achieved without political organizations. Even if you have to organize clandestinely at first, until a critical mass is reached which the government can no longer suppress. Whether the material conditions are suitable yet for this level of organizing, given that as you said, there is still some growth, i don't know.

    Maybe the country does need to first hit rock bottom or some kind of crisis before this becomes a real possibility. I hope not.

    Another interesting aspect to consider is how will the geopolitical situation with the US empire on the decline and China on the rise affect the interests of the national bourgeoisie? Will they still be motivated to act as compradors or will they be forced to adopt a more sovereigntist line on national economic development?

  • I get that. It looks bleak right now. It looks very bleak in the West as well. In fact from my perspective it looks like we have far less revolutionary potential than India. We have our own religion of liberalism and western supremacism that is used to keep the people docile and aligned with imperialism.

    But what we need to remember is that as the contradictions intensify the same tricks that have worked so far to fool the masses will at some point stop working. Simply because if this path continues the material conditions will be too dire and the contrast with the development path of countries like China will be too great and impossible to hide.

    Even if false consciousness like nationalism and religion is still able to paper over the contradictions now, that will not be possible forever. Any system can at most only continue so long as it is possible to survive under it. A moment will come when the people will have no other choice but to develop class consciousness and rise up.

    And if i am not mistaken i believe we have seen a few times in recent years some very big strikes/demonstrations take place in India involving farmers, right? This shows that there is some class struggle happening and the people understand how to organize. Only the problem is that so far these actions have been reactive rather than proactive.

  • As long as you are under the West's digital ecosystem, yes. That is why it is so important for countries to develop their own sovereign digital ecosystems like China has done and like Russia is starting to do.

  • Pathetic, sad display of bootlicking.

  • Yep. All of these identity and age verification laws they are trying to pass in the EU are very obviously meant to de-anonymize political dissidents.

  • I don't know this was a surprise to anyone. Doing any identity verification online1 with your real info is just self-doxxing. Anyone who opposes the empire and its Zionist proxy: you need to think and behave as if you are a dissident under a totalitarian surveillance/police state, because functionally you are.

    1(Except possibly with the exception if you are in the Chinese digital ecosystem. You can probably do identity verification safely on Chinese platforms. Hopefully Chinese platforms' cyber security is good enough to prevent your identity being leaked to the Zionist/Five-Eyes panopticon in a hack.)

  • One day, Inshallah, i hope to visit there too.

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  • Historical note: Muslims have been around in Xi'an since before it was even called Xi'an. Formerly known as Chang'an, the ancient capital of China for over ten dynasties, including the Han, Sui and Tang, was the beginning (or end, depending on your perspective) of the Silk Road and as such attracted Muslim merchants, from Central Asia, Persia and the Arab world, since the 700s. Today it is still home to a sizeable Muslim population and has one of the largest and oldest Mosques in all of China.

  • China @lemmygrad.ml

    What Is Ramadan Like in China? Muslim Life in Xi’an During Ramadan

  • China @lemmygrad.ml

    China's national legislature opens annual session

    english.news.cn /20260305/5cf5ede870774a6e9871dfac59abd687/c.html
  • West Asia @lemmygrad.ml

    Why are Iranian monarcho-fascists so vicious?

  • Too weak to attack, lacking the resources for a viable mobile defence, under orders not to retreat, and unable to construct a defence in depth, the Axis forces could only await the inevitable [Allied] attack, and hope to survive it.

    This reminds me very much of another conflict going on right now.

  • China: "Lol, no. Why would we do that?"

  • India has a choice to make. Do they want to be humiliated and subjugated like the Europeans, or do they want to be a proud and sovereign nation like China. I'm not going to pretend I can predict the future but i have hope that India, being an ancient civilization in its own right, like China, has the collective historical memory and cultural sophistication to not fall into this trap.

  • The opinion in China on Stalin has always been positive. That's more than one sixth of the entire world's population right there. In India you have prominent politicians named after Stalin. Now with Russia starting to come back to its senses after a few decades of insanity, i'd say we're on the right track in this regard.

  • I know there are orgs who do try to have some kind of ties and good for them, and they aren't usually the ones coming out of the woodwork to lecture in public about the inadequacies of particular anti-imperialist and/or AES entities; why would they if they're trying to build solidarity and friendship? If you have a problem with one you consider a friend or ally, do you bring it to them or go gossip to others about their shortcomings?

    Exactly! Thank you, this really needed to be said.

  • Translation: "We will never allow India to become as developed as China".

  • Take this with a grain of salt. I would not put it past the NYT to run interference for the Zionist entity. "Israel" already have a severe image crisis with the younger generation in the US and a lot of the western media's role is to do damage control in that regard.

    If they say it was the US, a) people are more likely to forgive the actions of their own government than those of a foreign government, and b) it can be blamed on the Trump administration and turned into a partisan thing.

    This could be strategic narrative management the same way throwing Ukraine under the bus for the Nordstream bombing to divert blame away from the US worked in Europe, because Europeans are more primed to sympathize with and forgive Ukraine for attacking them than the US.

    Just like maintaining the US's image in Europe matters more to the European ruling class, it is more important to the US ruling class to protect the image of the Zionist entity than that of the Trump administration.

    In any case, the distinction is largely illusory anyway, because the Zionist entity is an extension of the US empire and serves to advance the imperialist agenda in the region, while at the same time much of the US policy in the region serves to advance the goals and agenda of Zionism. A US attack on Iran is a Zionist attack and vice versa.

  • It just means be the opposite of a western Marxist, because clearly whatever western Marxists have been doing has not been working. We need to stop doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Enough of this chauvinism, this dogmatism and this purity testing nonsense that has infected western Marxism. We should look at successful revolutionary examples, and we should be pragmatic. Take inspiration from what works instead of remaining stuck on this century old treadmill of ideological and political dead ends.

    And rather than constantly preaching to the global south how they are "doing communism wrong" or "doing anti-imperialism wrong", rather than assuming that we always know better and are purer in our Marxism than everyone else, more civilized, more "enlightened", maybe it's time to embrace some humility and start learning from the global south and their successes. Whether that's success in communist revolutions and building socialism or just in anti-imperialist revolt and charting their own sovereign path free of colonial domination (like Iran or Afghanistan), even if that path is very culturally alien to us.

    Our arrogance is our worst trait as western Marxists. It prevents us from learning not just from our own mistakes but from the successes of others.

    (And by the way, there are also communists in the global south who are essentially "western Marxists", because unfortunately the West's culturally hegemonic position has also led to the spread of western attitudes toward political ideology, whether that's on the right or the left. So the way i see it it's more of a way of thinking than a geographic designation. Anyone can fall into this trap, especially if their material conditions are relatively more privileged - that's why it's so prevalent in academia! - or if their only exposure to Marxism has been through the western lens.)

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  • Excellent overview, perfect for explaining the basics of the situation to someone who is just starting to learn about this topic!

  • World News @lemmygrad.ml

    Iran War: Israel Air Defenses Crumbling, US Base Attacks Continue as Markets Set for Wile E. Coyote Moment

    www.nakedcapitalism.com /2026/03/iran-war-israel-air-defenses-crumbling-us-base-attacks-continue-as-markets-set-for-wile-e-coyote-moment.html
  • Geopolitics @lemmygrad.ml

    A materialist analysis of the Iran war

    www.reddit.com /r/TankieTheDeprogram/comments/1rjdkqy/stay_awhile_and_read_iranian_war/
  • World News @lemmygrad.ml

    U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,” Return of Jesus

    jonathanlarsen.substack.com /p/us-troops-were-told-iran-war-is-for
  • China @lemmygrad.ml

    Inside China’s Muslim Village You Don't Ever See

  • China @lemmygrad.ml

    Gen-Z village head brings new life to her hometown

  • West Asia @lemmygrad.ml

    Chinese traveller experiences everyday life in Iran

  • World News @lemmygrad.ml

    Japan to install missiles near Taiwan: Are China tensions set to spike?

    www.aljazeera.com /news/2026/2/25/japan-to-install-missiles-near-taiwan-are-china-tensions-set-to-spike
  • World News @lemmygrad.ml

    Iran Calls Trump's Bluff as Deep State Rebels Over War

    simplicius76.substack.com /p/iran-calls-trumps-bluff-as-deep-state
  • China @lemmygrad.ml

    Just a small example of China's grassroots-level consultative and participatory democracy

  • Russia @lemmygrad.ml

    Russia's perpetually collapsing economy (according to Western media)

    www.moonofalabama.org /2026/02/russias-collapsing-economy.html
  • China @lemmygrad.ml

    Why Southern China Has So MANY Dialects (& the North So Few)

  • China @lemmygrad.ml

    Why and how is the Western media lying about Jimmy Lai?

  • World News @lemmygrad.ml

    Hong Kong court sentences Jimmy Lai to 20 years in prison

    news.cgtn.com /news/2026-02-09/news-1KCgok1U95m/p.html
  • Science @lemmygrad.ml

    Real Images Of Venus Show That Something Is Seriously Off With The Planet

  • US News @lemmygrad.ml

    Why are more and more Americans becoming homeless?

  • Funny @lemmygrad.ml

    Are ski jumpers enhancing their penises to fly further? WADA is ready to investigate

    www.nytimes.com /athletic/7024688/2026/02/05/ski-jump-penis-enhancement-wada/
  • GenZedong @lemmygrad.ml

    War is peace: How the Nobel 'Peace' Prize justifies US wars & interventions