• Jack@slrpnk.net
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    10 天前

    I tried to go, but had funny pictures of the vice supreme leader and wasn’t allowed in the country…

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    9 天前

    Don’t mind me wrong, but looking at what Dubai is doing, I am not surprised Kim thinks people can forget about NK reality for a nice beach.

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      9 天前

      Hah! Good fucking point! Only thing I guess is that Dubai has a wonnnderful propaganda team winning over the hearts and minds of Western audiences, while NK has synchronized communist dancing events.

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    10 天前

    Only a moron would want to visit North Korea where Kim Jung Un will have you killed for saying anything negative about him or the country.

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          10 天前

          We’re there now. Im indigenous Central American but live in Canada. I have tattoos, and a ton of anti trump stuff on my phone. If I tried to enter the us I would immediately get hauled off and tossed in a gulag, back to a Central American shithole like where I started

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      10 天前

      I’d love to go there, and Iran, but I’m not stupid. The foreign culture would be amazing.

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          10 天前

          I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and respond to your 4-word insult comment, because I think it’s important and I’m assuming you either didn’t realize that OP is saying they currently won’t go there because of the political situation, or you’re saying that the existence of the current political situation completely erases any potential historical or cultural value the people and the country may have or have ever had or ever will have and that’s a really awful thing to say and I can’t imagine how someone could have that attitude without intentional hyperbole unless they’re being a disgustingly intolerant bigot.

          Iran is a beautiful country, in most of its history it was Persia. They were fierce warriors yes but also academics and scholars. They provided the foundation of modern astronomy and mathematics and were a beacon of civilization and education. We literally use “arabic” numbers today because of them. There is beautiful architecture, beautiful geography, beautiful wildlife in Iran and none of that had any choice about the government. There are wonderful people there, including ones who protest the regime and fight for democracy and human rights.

          The modern tyrannical islamofascist government sucks and of course nobody should go there now or at any foreseeable point in the future, but it’s not stupid to want to go there, and if they had a safe, friendly democratic nation (which it should be pointed out many of the people in Iran and who have fled Iran’s current regime would also like) I absolutely would love to visit too. I’m less interested in North Korea, personally, but I can understand that it might appeal to others and there might be interesting places and things and people there too that I’m just not interested in or don’t know about. I would also love to go to Russia too. Again, I would only do that without the government or the bad parts of their culture, but I still love many of the parts of their history and culture. I don’t hate the people or the land. I hate the evil governments and the shitty cultural attitudes.

          Try not to have shitty cultural attitudes yourself, appreciate and avoid invalidating the good parts of other people’s cultures, and it will help the world to be a better place where we can all get along.

          • NotAGamer@lemmy.org
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            10 天前

            I made my point that only a complete idiot would “vacation” in North Korea under it current political leadership.

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              9 天前

              You need to work on your reading comprehension then, because as I said:

              OP’s comment is clearly saying they currently won’t go there because of the political situation. That’s why they said “BUT I’m not stupid”. They are agreeing that it would be stupid to go there now, that’s why their statement of wanting to go there is made conditional on a “but” that is false.

              Like saying, “I love spicy food and I wish I could eat a whole ghost pepper at once, BUT I’m not stupid [implied: so I WON’T eat a whole ghost pepper at once]”

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          Watch the Anthony Bourdain “Parts Unknown” episode about Iran for some perspective without the propaganda… Just like the US, the government is awful, but the people, in general, seem wonderful.

          I would hope that people from other countries would give me the benefit of the doubt that myself and every other American aren’t pieces of shit just because our government is literally evil.

    • Kyrgizion@lemmy.world
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      10 天前

      Anyone who goes there of their own free will should know that they could end up like Otto Warmbier at any time. No tears will be shed for them.

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        10 天前

        They are likely betting on Chinese/Russian tourists. No way Kim lays a finger on a PRC citizen.

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          10 天前

          Also it’s curated to prevent them from seeing, the actual country side. It’s with minders

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          Yes, which is why it’s important for them to realize what they’re getting themselves into. Did Warmbier deserve what happened to him? Absolutely not, but knowing what happened and still going over there to play tourist means you’ve understood, accepted and internalized the possible risk. I will reserve my tears for the many thousands of people who get into trouble through no fault of their own.

          • slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org
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            9 天前

            When i went to Singapore, people told me that they arrest you there if you spit on the street or litter and find just any kind of drugs on you. I was like cool, i’m not doing all these things anyway and when i go somewhere i adjust myself to the country. Same goes for NK. You know where you are going, and even if the laws are stupid and no one deserves what he got, everyone who takes secret pictures or takes stuff they don’t want you to can expect the worst. Personally i would love to go to see NK, and i wouldn’t break any of their stupid laws, but i also don’t trust them enough and assume they can and will jail you anyway if they really want to.

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      10 天前

      Kim was educated in Europe, not like he’s clueless about the outside world. Also, there’s such a thing as “poverty tourism”. (I forget the word.)

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        He was educated in prestigious rich cunt schools in fucking Switzerland. He has zero clue about the outside world, the super rich don’t experience any of it, it’s all a sealed little political incest bubble.

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          9 天前

          All true, but my point was that he’s hardly been isolated in North Korea. He knows there’s an outside world, and to your point, knows how rich it can be.

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    9 天前

    What kind of fucking idiot builds a highway between the hotels and the beach?

    Thats the fucking stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life. Who ever thought that was a good idea should be shot. It couldn’t be in a worse place.

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        Highways don’t have crosswalks, and drivers can expect to have very few stoplights (compared to freeways, which should have exactly 0 stoplights or pedestrians whatsoever).

        Streets can have frequent crosswalks and stoplights.

        Sooo having a street between hotels and a beach would be no biggie, since guests could safely cross it on foot, at a crosswalk.

        But with a highway there, you cannot safely cross on foot. No crosswalks. Or if there’s something that looks like a crosswalk, it sure wouldn’t feel safe to cross it.

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    Hear that conservatives?

    You can visit the country you’re trying to make our country look like.

    You can get a good long look at what your dipshittery leads to. But only if you have the balls to leave the resort.

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    10 天前

    Interestingly, I’ve recently watched Real Life Lore’s video on the topic. It’s from 2 months ago and later in the video, it talks about the last batch of western foreigners that got in and how the regime almost immediately regretted letting them record and talk as much as they did.

    There was also a S. Korean resort ran by Hyundai, from 1998 to 2008, which got shut down and nationalized after an incident had the N. Koreans shoot and kill Park Wang-ja, a 53 year old woman.