Every time I try to use webp the file is bigger than in jpg, why do people try to push it for the web ? Is it maybe faster to render for browsers ?
What compression settings are you using for each? If you’re just accepting defaults it’s quite possible you’re comparing against a lossless webp, which is quite likely to be larger than jpeg at typical quality settings.
I just did a test with the test with the first png I found and tt looks like the default were lossless, hence why compression ratio were bad.
Here the webp in smaller than the jpeg and noticeably better. Maybe it would be different for different kinds of picture, with colours, more details and stuff, but here it is clear.For now I stand corrected, webp is better.
It may not be easy to see because the screenshot isn’t perfect, and lemmy compress it further, but the jpg clearly has some artifacts while the webp is slightly blurry.
JPG is lossy, WEBP is smaller than PNG, but is lossless. I think.
We used to be like this about PNGs once, it’ll pass.
Some sites still don’t support PNG lol. Usually it’s places where they specifically expect a photo, where they’ll hard code the validation to only check if it’s a JPEG. I once had to upload a picture of my face for something and the original JPEG was too large, so I took a screenshot and tried uploading that but it wouldn’t work because it only accepted JPEGs. So I had to figure out how to compress the image locally on my phone because I didn’t want to upload a picture of me to one of those online converters.
Yeah that’s true. I’m mostly talking local tools right now, but low tier sites are always gonna be a problem.
Oddly, reminds me of when Apple first pushed/forced HEIC on all of it’s users, without letting them know of course. Because of that, it caused thousands of students to fail their AP exams.
Big problem with HEIC is it requires H265 licensing because it’s effectively a single frame of video. This is why Windows won’t open HEIC by default is Microsoft didn’t want to pay for the licensing
My Samsung phone pushes out HEIF photos by default
My Samsung was recording videos in Hevc by default the other day and it was a pain to edit them in Da Vinci Resolve. Luckily Kdenlive handled them without any problems
It’s sad.
Adoption rate does matter. HEIC currently has a 13.99% adoption, and WebP has a 95.92% adoption rate in web browsers.
So when considering support in softwate, it’s more reasonable to pick WebP as default, rather than HEIC.
There are of course other considerations, like compression efficiency, format features, patents, …
Apple just loves having their own media formats
HEIC still catches me out from time to time. So many things just don’t support it
The irony is if I download this meme, it will be in webp format 😐
Only from the Lemmy image view, but the original is JPEG and you can download it too.
Today I learned something. Thanks!
I was just complaining to a friend that I think it’s fucking absurd that Messenger still doesn’t work with webp but I now have an ‘imagine’ button for making stupid ‘AI’ art.
Support JXL
Whenever I hear someone mention JPEG XL allI think of is JPEG 2000.
Or maybe just stop inventing new file formats for no fucking reason
There are good reasons for why both JPEG-XL and WebP exist though.
Web dev reasons and regular people reasons are not the same things
It’s not for no reason, JPG and PNG suck ass
Why would I want webpee
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Its funny since i can just rename it to a jpeg alot of the time and it loads on irfanview.
I’ve got her book by my bed, such a good read :-)
Every image will always load in irfanview regardless of extension. You just need to make sure your file associations are correctly configured
Hilariously, WebP often isn’t better than JPEG for compression efficiency
Why?
JXL is favourite squadron.
Decoder skill issue. If ImageMagick or whatever other open-source software can read it, everyone else has no excuse.
(That said, if I could pick, I’d pick JPEG XL)
One of my smaller incentives for getting the family group chat off Messenger and onto Signal was to be able to share memes from Hexbear without converting them.
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Even lemmy.world is in this bucket (not sure about other instances). See: https://lemmy.world/post/28304534
