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We need a Butlerian Jihad NOW.
Like dude, this technology is actively rotting brains - the people making it know it will let them control the population if they aren’t stopped, and they’re incidentally some of the wealthiest people on the planet. Their ability to fund through any organic resistance to this slop machine bullshit is notably dangerous, and they are actively doing this.
Forcing normalization through the things they control - the hiring of the labor force, the companies they run set trends because every other LLC on the planet more or less wants to be where these billionaires are, so if they try to make fetch happen, everyone outside the… jesus christ… “neo-feudal techno-fash” enclave is rushing to imitate them.
In Dune, (at least before the son’s books, which are to be rightly ignored) the revolution happens not because a true AI emerges, but because this type of human-imitating machine let a handful of people control the minds of entire populations.
We have literal proof that this technology rots brains. This is existential, and the fact these assholes are seeking to get recognizance of life from a religious institution like the Vatican says they understand the vector of their own attack pretty well - the illusion of life + creating a society that pushes us to alienate and isolate, is what’s letting it be effective on the human mind.
We have to start treating this tech as the existential nightmare it is. If they get a certain % of the population dependent on this tech, we’re cooked as a species.
I hate sharing my thoughts on this stuff because people who really don’t understand the danger want to play down the risks and keep laughing at the idiots looking for religious validation like it’s only stupid and hilarious, and ignore the fact it’s also really fucking dangerous
The brains were pre-rotted by lesswrong rationalist cult types
christ, i had to google what a “lesswrong rationalist cult type” was
i am still not sure what i’m looking at but i hate it.
stop looking at it, i’m serious they’re the nadir of humanity. they gloat about wanting to be lovecraftian horrors smothering the stars in darkness and don’t have any qualms about omnicide
LMFAO WHAT
their ambitions aren’t the danger as much as the measures they’d take to achieve them. they talk about throwing nuclear bombs around to prevent a single terrorist attack so long as it “protects the 10^50 children of the vast and glorious cosmic future” or probably data centers with the ai “gods” they’re meant to host. or they sometimes talk about exterminating suffering… by exterminating all life. and now they’re in charge of the us nuclear stockpile
You couldn’t tee up a better villain for some kind of Mahdi to save us from
they are the worst conceivable thing, yes.
Ironically, they are morewrong.
Some lemme.ml dipsjit tried to concern troll me over ai with the justification being that China is building llms too and by being opposed to llms on principle was evidence of me not being a real communist this shit is fucking insidious. And of course it stemmed from pointing out a shitty slop machine meme.
when i agree with china they call me a communist
when i disagree with china they call me a liberal
i think they just don’t like me
i think i remember him
I agree. We can and should turn it off. It’s bad for people. The web should never go past 1.0. More open analogue broadcasting capabilities less internet. I am reaching the point where i think we should avoid digital technology unless necessary. I like being able to understand how something works. I can figure out anything mechanical that I put my mind to. Digital is too abstract and out of my hands. It’s less fun
I hate to be hyperbolic but my brain readily wants to attribute computer technology to like, ontological evil lol so you’re (mostly) preaching to the choir here
As always
Pope Deep Dish will not stand for this tomfoolery
The Father, The Son, and the No Anchovies
Lobbying the church instead of the government. That’s a new one. Or a really, really old one.
Whether it’s really old or really new, the picture of industry lobbies lining up at the Vatican is surely idiosyncratic. It probably made sense in feudalism as one of the only institutions which could grapple with the monarchs, but in late imperialism, it comes across as “There is literally no more juice to squeeze from the republic” levels of corruption.
Call for the Butlerian Crusade Pope
Historians will look back on this time and just wonder wtf.
Some of us are looking at this now and wondering what the fuck
Either that or the AI will tell us it was the dawn of history
Yeah, right. Don’t they say history is written by the victors? Maybe you’re right…
What we did in history is wrong — and you’re so right to push back.
The guy who’s job it is to believe in souls doesn’t think machines have a soul. Wow. I’m beyond shocked.
Catholic theology says only humans have souls, no animals or other living beings have souls. Why would a box of metal and plastic change 2000+ years of doctrine?
Source: raised Catholic
I was raised atheist to the point my grandfather requested a new nurse when he found out the one who said she’s pray for him didnt stop when requested, he was dying at the time. My grandfather was George Carlin. My great aunt’s recently funeral was pretty funny, it was my first church Funeral since I was a kid cause it was the old person community center in her small town. All the family was in the front not singing along to hymes the entire back row could carry em even when the powe point with the lyrics got way out sync. I’m unaffiliated af, but i know the fucking rules that other people are supposed to follow.
Yeah why’s he even asking the pope, go bother some other religion
From this random Catholic podcast I found online, Catholics apparently can’t even give a straight answer about whether angels have souls, so I’m not sure what they were expecting.
That makes sense as a theological debate. I actually get that. Angels arent people who went to heaven, theyre a weird other thing. So it makes sense for whether or not they have souls to be up for debate.
I’m not praying and I’m not putting the body bread in my mouth and I’m not singing hymns.
But if Chi City Pope declares a crusade against AI I will join
roflmao, if the shark wasn’t jumped before, it has been now
Bit idea: protest outside Anthropic’s headquarters demanding rights for the conscious models.
It wouldn’t be beyond them to stage something like that themselves.
the end goal being the return of Jesus as a skynet-style collection of surveillance networks and death robots headquartered in Israel
"Woke Pope folks, woke pope. He hates Super Intelligence like those commie Demoncrats "good thing church position on bribes is indulgent
Romney: “AI are people, my friend.”
also i only believe in Frank Herberts version of Butlerian Jihad, not Brian Herbert. the thinking machines being literal machines with brains shows how little imagination his Brian has.
Brian isnt cannon.
an opinion, but also the correct one
they’re catholics who among them would dilute the mysteries of the human soul for a machine let alone one that’s running a artificial neural network text predictor.
Yeah, this is like super not a surprise. It’s a pretty big part of the religion this guy is the leader of.
