RiotDoll [she/her, she/her]

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  • I think it depends on what you need.

    Personal, non-institutional practice is kind of beyond reproach in isolation (unless you’re talking to somebody who reads Marx and co. dogmatically or something, but those folks can safely be ignored as having missed the point before they even got started)

    But you can’t… you cannot make the catholic church socialist by trying to be a socialist AND a catholic, and both your catholicism and your socialism will be impaired by the dissonance you will feel. Protestant and catholic churches are all, as an institution, deeply embedded in the history of anti-socialist and reactionary politics.

    I have private religious practices. I will even congregate with other people to read and study (we’re talking one, maybe two people) - and I basically mark it like this - my spiritual and religious tendencies are for organizing my interior - my priorities, my actions, my symbolic understanding of reality, all comes from a religious place, and that place is deeply rooted in christian (well it’s increasingly more islamic these days) belief.

    Marxism is the core of how I navigate the external world. It’s the main toolset i use to understand politics at any scale. It’s what I use to theorize/imagine how to build a better life for myself and others.

    But it’s really not useful for spiritual matters. Lots of key figures explicitly only analyze religion of any sort (though a lot of marxist-speaks-on-religion material i’ve read has a really huge problem with reducing belief to being something that is essentially a european flavor of christianity and it sucks) through the lens of its material political expression.

    This isn’t useless, but it absolutely isn’t useful for understanding the value of belief systems in terms of what it’s actually useful for, which is the transformation of self and identity.

    You can be Christian and socialist. You can’t be catholic, or protestant, and socialist, if that makes sense?

    like a socialist brand of christianity would need to emerge in dialogue, joining other socialists who are christian to define how their belief structures integrate with the larger marxist project, and in that context you will basically always have certain types of people who are mad you’re even around them, having that conversation.