• Inui [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    I’ll be dead but I’m imagining what companies like Blizzard, Valve, GOG, or anyone who has an online store is going to do if they’re still around in 50 years. Like “your account indicates you are now 110 years old. Please submit an ID to confirm or your account will be terminated” type shit.

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    About a case involving a rare item in an MMORPG:

    because [deceased gamer Lu’s “in-game wife”] Yang spent a similar effort [to his legal wife, Li Lan,] in helping Lu to acquire the artifact, its ownership belongs to both, so both Li Lan and Yang Yuan are entitled to 50% each of the asset’s price.

    kelly Judgement of SoloMMOn

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    I’m used to China being bad news, even just in gaming, with how loose copyright is and how prevalent Chinese gachas are. This is surprisingly cool and I wonder if it catches on in the West (though China has more incentive with Valve, Nintendo etc. not being Chinese)

    Edit: It says US laws prohibit that, because of course, but maybe EU, someday. Probably not given how SKG’s going.

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      I’m used to China being bad news,

      You’re used to being lied to and believing it, actually

      with how loose copyright is

      The west cries about copyright because they’re hypocritical pieces of shit. Intellectual property isn’t real, it’s the fakest shit since Fake came to Fake Town. The west acts like patenting is the only thing that lets new ideas happen when in reality it forces constant waste, wasteful competition, wasteful reinvention of the same shit to get around patents, and, again, literally just exists to allow rent-seeking on the ownership of ideas that literally would not exist without the foundational work of thousands of others. That’s the incentive that supposedly makes all creativity happen, the idea that the inventor gets to sit on the idea like a dragon on its hoard collecting wealth. Nevermind that the vast majority of patents and copyright don’t go to the actual people who innovated whatever makes it different, 99% of that shit is locked in the hands of corporate employers.

      Anyway, back to the west being hypocritical shits. Do you know much about the industrial revolution? If not, look up how the UK got steam engines and how the U.S. got those and machine parts. Hint: they stole, and flagrantly ignored copyright

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        Tiananmen never happened, and China is censoring a fake event? They’re totally peachy with Taiwan too, and those people I met a year ago made a whole flag up? And that video of a woman panicking to tears when covid began was deepfaked? Damn that’s a lot of shit I came up with at the top of my head that I guess was faked, for someone who usually doesn’t care.

        As for games specifically, until recent 5-10 years or so (with games like Wukong) I can’t remember any original Chinese IP. All I remember is crappy ripoffs. Even recent legal ones like P5X or that cancelled Don’t Starve spinoff seem bad on average. Copyright is usually bad, but apparently some incentive to try is better.

        • Tiananmen never happened, and China is censoring a fake event?

          Dude do you even know literally anything about what happened? Describe it to me

          I could literally go on all day about massacres committed just by police and armed corporate thugs just in America but strangely you don’t see those ever trotted out as reasons America is a repressive fucked to death shithole. Despite the fact that modern labor relations and even the enshrinement of capitalism itself are both built completely on this legacy of blood. Americans literally do not know these conflicts even happened! Weird, I thought it was the Chinese who hide their horrible history. And yet have you ever heard of the Italian Hall massacre? The Harlan County coal wars? The Bayview massacre? that one was fun, company guards killed workers including boys as young as thirteen, here in good ol America. The battle of Blair Mountain? One of the very first uses of military aviation was here in the good ol USA- dropping bombs on striking miners

          I could literally go on all day naming horrors I KNOW your liberal shit ass has never heard of, so I’ll stop here and say

          1. you know nothing about what happened at Tiananmen square, you just have a vague idea that China killed civilians and it was bad

          2. you’re being a xenophobic orientalist piece of shit for giving as much of a shit about it as you claim to given the extreme hypocrisy and incredibly repressive and violent history of the west

          As for games specifically, until recent 5-10 years or so (with games like Wukong) I can’t remember any original Chinese IP.

          They’re not marketed to your pasty cracker ass, dummy, lolll what is this trying to prove China bad because they don’t make you videogames

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            Yeah, you can name them! That’s the point! You can do that! Try doing the same in China.

            The fact you can write all the shit USA has done proves the point.

            • You are a fucking moron.

              You have a vague misinformed idea that has very overtly been twisted and selectively presented (ohh wait maybe you can explain fun stuff like literally British diplomatic cables from the time saying “THERE WAS NO MASSACRE IN THE SQUARE” except now literally every moron like you thinks they literally piled up civilians in the square to crush them with tanks. Which is it, dumbass?) to you to drum up hatred of a foreign enemy

              Yeah you’re allowed to talk about it you dumb fucker, the point is for you to talk about it and hate the perfidious asiatics like a good racist soldier

              Meanwhile you go “OH YOU CAN NAME THEM, THAT MAKES US SO FREE” entirely glossing over the fact that it doesn’t fucking matter if they’re not part of general education AND NOBODY BUT NERDS LIKE ME, EDUCATING THEMSELVES, FUCKING KNOW THEY HAPPENED

              Like Im sorry you’re so fucked to death stupid but it really shouldn’t take even a third or fourth brain cell to recognize that in these conditions the U.S. doesn’t need to suppress information about its repressive actions- they already fucking won! They already killed the miners, destroyed their movements, and effectively enslaved an entire three or four generations of wage laborers. From their perspective, so fucking what if a minority like me “knows about” any of it? We still have endless fucked in the head morons like you acting like Westworld androids incapable of recognizing any of the implications when you’re informed of these events! You dumb fucking piece of shit!

              Like seriously, you are fucking dumb as shit. I hope you die

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                The reason I don’t trust China is because when something bad happens in most other countries, information goes fast. If Covid broke out elsewhere, you’d probably find tons of comments online quickly, but in China, it seems like they’re trying 10x harder to stop information and save face.

                I honestly don’t care how bad China was 30 years ago, I want to know if it’s bad now, and bad cover ups just make it look worse. At least if I went to the US I know how shitty healthcare is.

                • The reason I don’t trust China is because when something bad happens in most other countries, information goes fast.

                  Lack of evidence something happened is not evidence it did happen. It seems almost everything you have heard about China is fictional.

                  I honestly don’t care how bad China was 30 years ago, I want to know if it’s bad now

                  It isn’t

                  bad cover ups just make it look worse.

                  I’m hoping to get through to you that this is an incredibly dishonest way to view a country of 1.4 billion people and that you have been conditioned to believe any negative story with no further need for investigation. You are viewing China through the lens of a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy where both evidence for and against what you have heard will reinforce those beliefs.

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                  I honestly don’t care how bad China was 30 years ago

                  You’re the one who brought up Tienanmen Square! Make up your mind!

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      The best way to think about China’s copyright system is that it works more like western trademarks.

      If you design a better mousetrap, everyone should just start using and making those better mousetraps. But you still can’t put Mickey Mouse on your mousetrap.

      Everyone should benefit from your improvement to quality of life without you having a monopoly on good mousetraps. But if you write a book about how to improve common objects like mousetraps, you should be allowed to sell that book without the fear that every other book printer on earth is going to distribute copies of your book.

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        At least in their video games though, improved mouse traps (good games) seem rare. Most of it seems to be old mousetraps barely tweaked.

        Then again, I could just not buy the old mousetraps, so no harm is being done, I guess. I just wish more improved mousetraps came from China.

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      I wish copyright was looser so the nemesis system could be used by more and the 00’s indie market hadn’t been murdered by patent trolls.

      Also, out of curiosity, what bad news have you heard about China?

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        In games? I mostly associate games in China with lots of ripoffs a decade ago, which gave a bad impression. It’s only in recent years I heard they’ve done good original work like Wukong or that Ne Zha movie.

        Bad news in general? Not recent I suppose, since I can only think of panicking people back when covid began, and the usual censorship news every half a year. But not much changed my impression since a decade ago either, at best being more competent than other superpowers.

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      Gacha is prevalent in Asia in general, China has way better policies about it than Japan for example.

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        Admittedly, China is also just way bigger, yes. So obviously you’d see more things from them. It’s just that good IPs also seem less common, at least for how big it is. The last Chinese game I saw was some amalgamation of GTA V, Spiderman, and a bunch of other AAA games.

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      If you’re used to China being bad news, that says more about your news sources than about China. I don’t see how China can be bad news when it’s not actively bombing other countries and blocking international oil trade, when it’s the producer of 95%+ of solar panels in the planer, and when it doesn’t directly fund and provide for isntreal’s genocidal military.