• thesohoriots@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    They noted the drug is so dangerous it has to be handled in a specialized laboratory.

    No it’s not, you fucking cowards. You can spill a vial of liquid medical-grade fentanyl on your skin and wash it off. Dumb cop shit like this is why you’re not intercepting it.

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      I think drug-war propaganda is what really, really caused a whole generation of kids to learn to call bullshit on some tough guy with a badge trying to speaking loudly and authoritatively on almost any topic, most especially drugs.

      I remember I was maybe in 5th or 6th grade when I first ran across the infamous Blue star tattoo bullshit. Supposedly handed out by cops to our school…even back then, I had my suspicions. But the usual suspects among kids and adults were buying it hook, line and sinker.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_star_tattoo_legend

      Later, I was at a job where someone wanted to put that up on the break room wall as some kind of PSA, but was showing it around to everyone first. I literally laughed out loud and told them this was an urban legend. This was c. 1994-1996; I told them to look it up. I was given much side-eye and treated like I “didn’t care about the kids” since I was young and single.

      The flyer still went up. 🤣

      There is just a helluva lot of bullshit floating around and for things that many normies haven’t been exposed to and don’t bother to look into, what a cop says will pass as the “authoritative” answer.

      TBF, I know nothing about fentanyl and have never really looked into it.

      • applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        this stuff usually comes from republicans so im going to invoke that every accusation is an admission of guilt. republicans were/are giving all kinds of hard drugs to children. damn that makes me sad because its probably connected to epstein…

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          The thing about drugs is, as far as I’m aware, the “hard drug” thing is bullshit, and it’s part of the problem. We give drugs to kids all the time, in the form of caffeine. Most people have a caffeine dependance and at least casually use alcohol.

          I dislike that we treat some drugs as evil, and others as part of our daily lives. The should all be handled with proper education and care. People should actually be made aware of what addiction feels like, and how to handle it. They should also be informed of what certain drugs feel like and have access to harm reduction techniques if needed.

          Drugs aren’t evil. They are often dangerous though. They have been a part of human culture for longer than we’ve been human. We should be free to use them if we choose, and this should be able to be done safely.

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            the “hard drug” thing is bullshit

            Well, it’s incontrovertible that things can go much more badly wrong with some drugs than others.

            Drugs aren’t evil. They are often dangerous though.

            Hmm, that’s kind of a “guns don’t shoot people, people shoot people (wuth guns)” argument. I take a fairly extreme decriminalization position on all drugs, but even so, part of harm reduction is being able to exercise sensible triage. There can definitely be “riskier” and “less risky” rankings, and policy should address the risker category more intensively.

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              Risky ≠ evil though. Yeah, some are easier to OD, and some are more addictive. People should be educated on the effects and dangers before using them. However, “hard drug” is used not as a term for danger, but a term for morality.

              As for the gun thing, it’s not really the same. The thing with guns is it posses a danger to others. Drugs (usually) only pose a danger to yourself. We evolved to use drugs. Using them in the proper way in the proper context should not be stigmatized or illegal. Obviously using them in a way that does put others at risk should be though, and heavily.

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      They’re not intercepting it because the plan was for the defiant drug users to be poisoned and genocided so that the god fearing law abiding sees-authority-as-divine Christian nationalists would be the only ones left

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    And they are blaming Canada.

    Where they caught the staggering amount of 1 pound. Heading into Canada.

    In the same time frame they caught more than 2 tons at the Mexico / US border.

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    Fent was the reaction to young Americans discovering that the Drug War was bullshit. We all discovered that when used responsibly, we could have weed. We could have psychedelic experiences. All the bad shit that was going to happen was happening because of bad people, and it wasn’t the drugs that changed those people.

    Fent adulteration was an attack on all people who dared to oppose the law and get high. It was a genocide against defiers, in the same way that crack was used against black people.

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      it wasn’t the drugs that changed those people

      I’ve known a lot of junkies, including close friends and family members, and addiction definitely changed them (and one of the drugs that has that effect is alcohol).

      Fent adulteration was an attack on all people who dared to oppose the law and get high.

      There were also economic incentives for the suppliers. Just another case study of capitalism taking its course. But I suppose it’s another debate about “made it happen” vs “stodd by and let it happen.” I favor the latter because all it requires is inaction from the authorities, and if there’s one thing they know how to do, it’s inaction.

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    If the fentanyl is still making it into the country in “staggering” amounts, then who the hell are we killing on all those boats in the Caribbean?

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      In at least in one case it looks like it was human smuggling. Could you imagine getting blown up for trying to escape a situation you are in for no reason other than Trumplethinskin needing a distraction from his history of pimping children.

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        In at least in one case it looks like it was human smuggling.

        According to the Trump administration, famous for its scrupulous honesty.

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          It was probably just some people catching a ride up the coast AKA human smuggling. You can’t make this shit up.

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    They need drugs on the streets so they can keep excusing their illegal kidnappings of immigrants.

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      @daannii @kinther Ya don’t need anything but an authoritarian playbook and man, we’re hitting it. Anyone real and imagined can be kidnapped and put in a lovely for-profit prison camp for any reason. We’ve been seeing what’s been coming for a long time. We’ve getting there.

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    I am cynical enough to believe that had fent caused fewer overdose deaths, the DEA would have been more enthusiastic about preventing its distribution and sale.