• GrouchyGrouse [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    Because local cops, fucking billionaire celebrities like Jerry Seinfeld, shady internet ops funded by Israel, the entire media establishment, and their own fucking schools colluded to terrorize the youth for exercising their rights and demonstrating at their halls of learning.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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      And literally, they told us not to. And we’re doing what they told us to. Why aren’t they happy we are being the good conformists they want us to be? We’re already more right wing than boomers and they still think gen z isn’t racist enough.

      Are they just allergic to giving us any credit? (Of course, I AM left-wing. But I’m just saying that the actual establishment doesn’t deserve the blind loyalty they get from zoomers.)

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        That’s the part I can’t get over. They told the kids to stifle their youthful impulses and said “we might ruin the entire rest of your life over this” and wondered why they weren’t enthused about the whole event

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    Everyone knows the score at this point.

    Palantir, the bloated police state and the absolute refusal to listen to even the milquetoast request to stop funding a genocide (not even fight to stop the genocide!) all have shown that protest results in beatings and ostracization from the economy.

    What does that mean? Who knows.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      Narrative salience and history would teach us that it’s the hero’s journey. You’d have some disillusioned youth who hates the status quo find their way out of their comfort zone. They’d find a mentor who tells them about the stakes and teaches them a new way to interact. They’d then confront the powers that be with this new found capacity. Presumably this would be like someone reacting to the brutal violence and impotence of asking nicely. For legal reasons I can’t imagine what an adapted response to fascist violence that’s not asking nicely would be. I genuinely cannot even fathom a single guess as to what that that might look like.

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    Another factor, Twenge noted, may be that the left overplayed its hand on controversial issues such as transgender women in sports, equity versus equality, cancel culture, defunding the police, affirmative action,

    Thanks for the analysis new york warcrimes, its wokeness, not that protest just means nothing anymore

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      Defund the police is a thing the left went for, the rest was stuff the right over reacted to. People didnt go out on the streets over fucking equity vs equality, they did it cause cops keep murdering black people. This is why you dont use academic terminology to express wanting basic rights, they will use it against you. Be blunt

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        They’ll use anything they want against you, whether it’s a Marxist academic phrase like “critical theory”, corpo jargon like “DEI”, or online slang phrases like “stay woke”. Hence the phrase “When I feed the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why the poor have no food, they call me a Communist”. You can say the most innocuous thing and they’ll spit blood at you.

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    They were out protesting against Trump in Minneapolis. Then the mayor amd the governor cut backdoor deals with Trump to sic the police and national guard on the protestors so that ICE could work in peace.

    • Hmm… a similar thing before with a Basel Al Araj Palestine protest in Columbia University

      On May 7, 2025, student protesters at Columbia University entered and took over the Lawrence A. Wien Reading Room of Butler Library, naming it the “Basel Al-Araj Popular University” as part of a broader protest movement demanding disinvestment from Israel amid the Gaza genocide.[41][42] At the order of Columbia’s administration, students were blocked in by Columbia’s Public Safety and prevented from leaving unless they showed their student ID cards, causing a standoff for hours until the administration summoned the NYPD to arrest the students.[43] The Trump administration praised Columbia’s response as showing “fortitude and conviction”,[44] highlighting the enforcement of campus policies amid federal scrutiny over the university’s handling of antisemitism allegations.[45][46][47] The day before Columbia formalized its settlement with the Trump administration, its University Judicial Board issued expulsions, suspensions, and degree revocations to over 70 students who participated in the “Basel Al-Araj Popular University” occupation of Butler Library.[48][49]

      This is what happened to those actually anti-Trump elements

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    Partially democrats heavily outlawed protests and trump isn’t hesitating to take advantage of the more than usual “illegality” of protests.

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    I’ve seen pro-Palestine people show up at these Lib ass NO KINGS protests and other related marches. People are still doing stuff it’s just the campus protests fizzled out cuz I think people realized the whole encampment thing isn’t that effective.

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        And teachers who participated were fired, immigrants who participated were deported, etc. They came down hard on them, which is why you know we need to keep doing that.

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      The encampments and disruptions were effective, that’s why college kids were getting their skulls cracked and pepper sprayed. The No Kings marches are ineffective, out of sight, out of mind, that’s why noone bothered

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      it was the most effective of any anti-genocide protesting in the USA, that’s why it was cracked down on with an iron fist. It stopped not because it was ineffective but because the core of activists was arrested, expelled and beaten

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        Yeah actually it’s an indication that it was being effective, and would have continued being effective, which is why the state used its security forces to suppress those tactics.

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        there were a few famous and effective encampments but there were also many groups that didn’t correctly follow the escalation ladder just so they could join the encampment wave and therefore were successfully destroyed with little to no actual impact

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    Some of the biggest protests in US history have been against Trump, including the women protests, 50501 ones, and the anti-ICE ones. There have also been numerous smaller ones, including anti-War with Iran protests and pro-Palestinian ones. Wtf are they talking about?

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    since we all know that they are and have been is this like a call for a bunch of zoomers to leeroy jenkins themselves in futility against the white house lethal defense grid in a sort of lib J6?

    “we spent years brutalizing young people for good and righteous protesting and now we want them to get mowed down so we can start a conversation or something” - nyt