• JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org
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      3 months ago

      Good question and a great segue into a fun fact: it seems quite possible people waking up in the middle of the night was the norm for centuries, and that the assumption of sleeping the whole night is potentially a more modern idea.

      I am having trouble finding a specific article, but a historian recently catalogued a large number of historical entries which note ‘the second sleep’. He basically posited that it’s likely that for ages, people in the pre-industrial world would sleep for about 3-4 hours, wake up in the middle of the night for an hour or two, and would then go back to sleep. Article talking about it.

      Articles quite often say that writing as far back as homer talk about an hour which terminates the first sleep like a normal thing everyone knows about. I haven’t read much of homer or Virgil so i can’t personally confirm or deny that.

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        3 months ago

        This also relates to evolutionary traits like why older people wake up early and younger people stay up late. Some suggest it was to sort of act in like shifts to watch over the camp at night.

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        3 months ago

        Some monks are still doing that.

        In Monastics rules that have been written centuries ago it’s wrote common to have an hour or two of prayer in the middle of the night, around 2-3 am.

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      Yeah, in fact there’s a lot of evidence that biphasic/segmented sleep was quite common through history.

      It isn’t really until the industrial revolution and long artificially strict working days that things shifted towards a single longer sleep period being more common.

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      3 months ago

      I do, it’s awful honestly.

      I can follow a strict diet all day, no problem.

      However, when I wait up at 1am it’s hard to explain, like I’ve already given in so I can just go ahead and eat whatever.

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      3 months ago

      If I’m stuck spending my entire afternoon at work, then I’m going to take back my free time by spending it in the peace and quiet of the night. I’ve never been a morning person anyways.

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      3 months ago

      Plenty of people have told you ‘yes’ but I wanted to just say that this meme resonates with me, not because I wake up in the middle of the night, but because I’ve developed a really bad habit of eating about 1-2 hours before bed on snacks. I know it’s a habit and not just being hungry because I’ve been still-full from dinner and went “This is about when I’d be having a snack” and suddenly I want one.

      Not having late night snacks really is the best way to break that habit but yeah the meme is a mood.

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      3 months ago

      This! Sober me know I dont need to be inhaling so many calories of chips and cookies at night. High me on the other hand really hates sober me

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      3 months ago

      Yeah seriously, all I get for a “pantry”, is a narrow cabinet next to the fridge that is about 30% wide as the rest of the kitchen cabinets. It’s so small that I freed up a ton of available space by installing spice racks on the inside of the door.

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      15 days ago

      Here in sweden we have something like this in the basements of at least all the old apartment buildings (not sure if it’s still being put into new construction).
      Basically just a second storage room, but intended for stocking up on food, which i’m starting to REALLY wish people knew about because it would be rather nice if everyone had a pantry full of food and water if we have to rush down into the basement to take shelter for… some reason…

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        I’m guessing that in Sweden the temperature at about 2m underground is probably close to a refrigerator, right? In Canada it’s typically between 4C and 10C year round. So, as long as you can keep it dry, it’s very good for long-term storage.

        And, even if there’s no huge war coming, it certainly looks like the disruptions due to the Strait of Hormuz will last years at this point. We won’t even begin to see the effects of the fertilizers produced in the gulf being choked off until the harvest season comes. And if the farmers have enough fertilizer for this season, it might be next season’s crops that are hit. Living in a rich country means you probably don’t have to worry about starvation, but you might face huge prices, or a major lack of selection. People in poorer countries will probably have an even worse outcome than that. So, it’s a good idea to stock up on certain staples that you actually use before the prices start increasing.

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          No not really, the basements in apartment buildings are heated to something more like 17°C (going from what it feels like).
          You’re just meant to put shelf-stable food in there, like pasta or canned stuff. It’s just a big pantry, not a fridge.

          And while yeah things will get more expensive, i’m more talking about having food and water in emergencies, which most people don’t have. You’re not really going to store enough food in there to make much difference for something as long-term as farmers running out of fertilizer, but e.g. if power goes out for a week then a stocked pantry is the difference between it being a traumatic event and it just being a very unpleasant week.

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    I went the grocery store today and was very good about not buying any snack junk. On the way out I encountered those demons from the depths of hell known as “girl scouts”.

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    3 months ago

    I try to balance health with frustration by buying snacks, which satiate at least somewhat, so for example trail mix or fruit. 🥴

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      15 days ago

      This is the way: either low-calorie or high satiation, and as much fibre as possible so you’re at least gaining something from it.

      I like baking carrot cake with as little sugar as is needed to make it taste good (which is remarkably less than recipes call for, i think i’m removing like A THIRD), and using whatever kind of flour has the highest proportion of fibre.
      It’s not healthy as such, but at least for me as someone who burns a decent amount of calories, it’s something i can snack on as much as i want without feeling bad (with the significant caveat of doing so AFTER i’ve eaten something more proper, so it’s not displacing the “real” food).