People in the West often think Socialism and multiculturalism go hand-in-hand. In reality, most socialist countries in the past and today are actually ethnostates.
Oh how could i forget the famous ethnostates of the USSR and Cuba
Anti-migrant sentiment hasn’t “arrived” in China, it’s been there for a while. China has an immigrant population of 0.07% with the second lowest rate in the world (for reference the US has a migrant population of 15%, some 200 times higher than China). A lot of socialist countries have lower immigration than capitalist ones because capitalist nations artificially drive up innovation to suppress wages by increasing the reserve army of labor. Socialist countries don’t have a need for this so they will slow immigration to the pace of infrastructure growth, whereas capitalist nations don’t do this as they evidently don’t care about infrastructure quality.
That account has always been deeply racist. It’s no surprise
Don’t search posts from that user containing “India” or “Indian”, worst mistake of my life 😱
Casual anti-Indian racism is ubiquitous on the Chinese internet. You just have to be mindful and avoid those content.
To be fair, I don’t think there are many places on any Internet that don’t have an anti-Indian slant to them
now I can see the common ground for Sino-Canadian relation
I see a lot of these sentiments on RedNote.
This isn’t new, a big chunk of the Tienanmen square protestors were mad about African immigrants at their universities. And most Chinese people I’ve met do have the attitude towards foreigners of “Don’t move here to take advantage of our society’s success, stay in your country and make it better to live in instead.”
They were mad because African students are apparently getting free education provided by the state and they are also sleeping with Chinese women.
also sleeping with Chinese women.
You still see Chinese incels cry about this part
I know a dude who works as a Tax collector for the Chinese local government who hates Lesbians because they are taking away women from the ‘‘market from men to breed with’’
Tell me you know nothing about the USSR without telling me you know nothing about the USSR…
Even my chud history teacher in highschool had that NatGeo poster of the USSR and all of its ethnic groups, hanging on the wall in his classroom.
I might need to get that one NGL. Or maybe a similar Soviet version which I am sure exists somewhere LOL.
Have been eyeing the following poster for a while as well:
(Text translates to something like: “We are millions of defenders of peace. Peace will triumph over war!”)
a chauvanist posting in English
It checks out
China has their own social media ecosystem, which means two things:
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Normal Chinese people just use Chinese social media and are barely aware of Western social media outside of “it exists.”
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People who are (allegedly) Chinese posting on Western social media are either people who can’t understand Chinese (the Chinese diaspora), people who got banned from Chinese social media (reactionaries and cranks), or people who value the attention of Western social media more than Chinese social media (Westophiles and cranks).
(Alleged) Chinese reactionaries on Western social media mean absolutely nothing because they are the dregs of Chinese society as exemplified by their nonparticipation in Chinese social media.
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Zhao DaShuai is an unironic Chinese propaganda account that doesn’t have half an idea about what she’s talking about most of the time. It’s just another one of these “the west will fall all US/NATO military technology is useless” X/Twitter accounts either getting paid to post or with a suspect background. Same with DD Geopolitics, Ayden/kalibrated maps, armchair warlord, Lord bebo, Clash report, Scott Ritter, any of the 500 Z accounts on the platform, etc, etc. Low quality sources of information outside of boasting about whatever new wunderwaffe China/Russia/Iran has.
So basically Chinese Gordon Chang. Well, yes, Gordon Chang is Chinese, you know, I, you get the point
China, famously an ethnostate without internal diversity.
While Han chauvinism is a real issue and obviously their immigration policy is restrictive, it’s my impression that the general public, on average, is generally pretty anti-ethnostate. I don’t think some creep on twitter can really be taken as evidence that Beijing is fascist now, especially since there have always been virulently reactionary freaks in China during every period of its existence.
This is one of those pro-China propaganda and social reactionary accounts you find on the English side of the internet that I’ve long written off lol. And it is true that most Chinese people don’t even give this question a second thought.
However, there are some merits to be worried… There is a recent rise in nationalist propaganda, especially anti-Japanese sentiment, across all mainstream and social media platforms across China, especially after the recent House of Councillors election in Japan where anti-Chinese far right political parties made incredible progress.
Combined with the recent release of the film Dead to Rights about Nanjing Massacre that has caused quite a sensation, and another Unit 731 film to be released soon, together with the full blown militarization advertisement and the recent military parade, it is quite clear that nationalism/patriotism is on the rise accompanying the economic downturn (especially the high youth unemployment) that is currently happening in China.
I watch with caution where this is heading. The trend towards militarization is clear, which is not unique to China but similarly occurring in the US and Europe. Whether this is just a big propaganda push to distract people from the economic issues, or whether there is something more organic underneath it, I’m not so sure.
This is one of those pro-China propaganda and social reactionary accounts you find on the English side of the internet that I’ve long written off lol. And it is true that most Chinese people don’t even give this question a second thought.
There’s a reason why they’re tweeting in English on Western social media site instead of Chinese on Chinese social media. The rub is finding out exactly what that reason is. And it isn’t because they can’t write Chinese, which leads to mostly unsavory reasons (banned on Chinese social media, general crank, wants attention from Westerners).
However, there are some merits to be worried… There is a recent rise in nationalist propaganda, especially anti-Japanese sentiment, across all mainstream and social media platforms across China, especially after the recent House of Councillors election in Japan where anti-Chinese far right political parties made incredible progress.
I mean the PRC just celebrated its 80th anniversary of defeating Japan. I would wait a year to see if nationalist sentiment is still there. However, 2027 is going to be the 100 year anniversary of the founding of the PLA, so I guess you can look forward to nationalist sentiment coming back in 2 years lol
There’s a reason why they’re tweeting in English on Western social media site instead of Chinese on Chinese social media. The rub is finding out exactly what that reason is. And it isn’t because they can’t write Chinese, which leads to mostly unsavory reasons (banned on Chinese social media, general crank, wants attention from Westerners).
You can find similar sentiments on Chinese social media. They’re a minority but they’re there.
I mean the PRC just celebrated its 80th anniversary of defeating Japan. I would wait a year to see if nationalist sentiment is still there. However, 2027 is going to be the 100 year anniversary of the founding of the PLA, so I guess you can look forward to nationalist sentiment coming back in 2 years lol
Not the same. I’ve seen the ebb and flow of anti-Japanese sentiment my entire life. This one feels manufactured more than anything I’ve seen before. But maybe that’s just how social media and their algorithms work these days.
From my experience there’s always been an anti-Japanese “season” around the summer when all the WWII films and Sino-Japanese war films come out. It’s probably being pushed especially hard now since it’s a round number anniversary and likely the last significant one where any actual participants are still alive. Also, Japanese fascists are making significant gains.
I use bilibili as a gauge for brainworm concentrations in Chinese social media and there has definitely been an increase in militaristic sentiments. In any case it’s very different from the much more “let’s all hold hands and sing kumbaya”-type vibes of circa 2010.
It is mildly amusing that there is a segment of Chinese nationalists that basically believe the exact same things as the average Fox News-addled American boomer about woke liberals destroying America by legalizing crime and importing violent migrants and opening free crack distribution centers, except they think it’s good that it’s happening. Just last week I watched a video on bilibili where the guy said San Diego residents are forced to watch millions of migrants invade America by lining up at the border where CBP assigns them free luxury mansions no questions asked if they lie about being abused. Anyway the conclusion of the video was that America is becoming the Qing dynasty because of the moral decay caused by marijuana legalization
One example is the Unit 731 movie that is coming out this month. The film has been in production since 2017 and wrapped filming back in 2022 but was suspended by the censorship bureau. Lots of wild theories on the internet about why it was not allowed to be released.
However, it is finally coming out this year, which feels coordinated to a certain extent together with the Nanjing Massacre film. Whatever the reasons, the government deems it appropriate to now show the films.
By the way, I don’t think there is anything wrong with showing Japanese atrocities and reminding people of what it felt like to be a country under threat by foreign imperialism. However when you combine this with the other recent events, it feels like a push towards amplifying nationalist propaganda.
Taking 5 years to film a movie is extreme unless you’re making something like the Soviet War and Peace, but I guess you have to exclude 2020-21 so it practically would only be 3 years or so. 3 years of filming is still on the long side though, sounds like it was in development hell.
But I have to wonder, surely the script was reviewed and approved before they went into production, right? I can’t imagine a company going through the expense of making a period film about a sensitive topic unless they knew it was approved.
Were they reapplying for releasing it every year or did the government just decide to summon it back from exile for the 80th anniversary?
Whatever the reason was that it didn’t get released in 2022 evidently no longer concerns the government.
Nationalist sentiment has been on the rise globally in recent years. So the thinking may be that if you’re not making nationalist propaganda efforts then you’re essentially letting foreign media write your history for you. This was the thinking behind the commissioning of Soviet WWII films in the 1960s - the West was dominating the WWII period film genre and was basically erasing the role the USSR played in the war.
Is anti-japanese sentiment not based in the growing fascist sentiment in Japan? The growing revisionism regarding Japanese crimes and attempted genocides of Chinese? I, of course, don’t live in China to understand the senitment entirely, but this being an organic reaction to that development in Japan seems just pretty logical instead of it being a large propaganda push. Unless I’m par tof the propagandized section in Europe ?
Yes, and I believe it is fully justified. The sudden uptick in nationalist propaganda over the past two months is what trips me off. You know the feeling when you see the news and popular social media channels suddenly start talking about a particular issue. It feels unnatural, but that is just a gut feeling. Maybe everyone is just trying to catch on to the latest sensation. That’s why I am watching with caution and see where this is going.
There is also economic downturn and the broad pessimistic mood across China at the moment, so it would not surprise me to see that nationalist/patriotic propaganda can serve as a release valve at the same time. What’s more, we have high youth unemployment, and what better way to keep that number down through military recruitment (the number of applicants to military and police academy this year has surged, according to recent news report).
Is youth unemployment that high? Half of Europe is in the 20 percent range
It’s high for a country that is growing at 5%, while many European countries are stagnating at 1-2% growth.
So the question is where did all the growth come from? If it is not translating into more jobs then we have a problem, because the wealth is not being circulated into the real economy.
I should hope China is rapidly militarizing and focusing all their efforts on vastly expanding their military might. They will need it for the inevitable upcoming war with the great satan. They would be great fools to do anything else.
If it takes an economic downturn to prod the state into militarizing, so be it. It will likely also be global economic downturn that prompts the first serious attacks of WW3 from the so-called United States.
Yes this seriously feels like the 1930s all over again. In a few years there will be tons of military equipments all over the world, waiting to be used somehow.
However, there are some merits to be worried… There is a recent rise in nationalist propaganda, especially anti-Japanese sentiment, across all mainstream and social media platforms across China, especially after the recent House of Councillors election in Japan where anti-Chinese far right political parties made incredible progress.
I have seen China going after Japanese’s crime especially Nanjing Massacre, the comfort women issues and how Japan is spreading Radiation in the water to ‘‘Shinzo Abe is great because he did a Chinese New year greeting some years ago’’. Depending of how warm the relationship vis à vis Korea.
I have seen China going from’’ Koreans IJA auxillaries are the one committed all the worst crimes in China during WW2’', ‘‘North Korea are the biggest welfare state bankrolled by China’’ to ‘‘Koreans are brothers who also fought Japanese imperialism’’. Depending of how warm is the relationship vis à vis Japan.
lol. Ten years ago many of my friends proudly call themselves “capitalists” (they are working/middle class) and “America is our big brother” while I was the weird “communist”. How the tables have turned.
I remember when Bush was in power where China has multiple shows/documentaries about how the Flying Tigers one of the reason why we won in the Chinese theater and we should be grateful from our American brothers, Funnily enough, the head of the Flying tigers is a rapid anti-communist who was part of the China lobby, pushing for regime change after the Chinese Civil war in order to reinstalling the KMT.
This probably stop being a thing when Obama started the pivot to Asia.
Obviously you know this better than me, but from your explanation so far it’s not obvious to me that anti-Japan sentiment is relevant to the OOP. The Japanese government has been run by fascist apologists (if not genuine fascism aspirants) for a long time and they have a history of downplaying and denying what Imperial Japan did to China and Korea with every apologist tactic in the book, while having head executives present and former venerate Unit 731, which is literally on the level of venerating Josef Mengele if not slightly worse (for being a greater project that was also more systemically integrated into the state), to say nothing of all the other war criminals.
So I don’t think you need to be a racist to have an extreme and deep-seated hatred for the national project of Japan. In a bizarro world where they actually took human decency seriously, denounced all these war criminals, and turned these shrines into museums to Imperial Japan’s war crimes, then I think hating Japan for these things would be more problematic, but you’ve still got coinflip odds on them even saying that the sex slavery really happened when asked.
China has a population of well over a billion, I’m sure there are all kinds of people living there. I don’t think one tweet really means anything.
Statistically they’ve got to have a dozen Chinese Cyber Smith/Human Pet Guys
The Chinese Cybersmith is hard at work making the CCP manmilking factory a real thing
Get ready to learn “Sissy Porn Mithridates” in mandarin, it’s China’s century!
Human Pet Guys
ohnoo i had blissfully forgotten
well it does mean this person isn’t getting the gulag for proclaiming socialism “is usually in an ethnostate”
You can literally report this guy to Chinese authorities for spreading racial hate and they will respond. Imagine that in America? Lol
She might be joking in her profile, but the person referenced in this post claims to work for the Chinese authorities.
That’s just pathetic larp. Actual people “working for the Chinese authorities” aren’t wasting time on Western social media and they certainly won’t be going “uh aktually, I work for the PRC but I won’t tell you my official title.” This is “my dad works for Nintendo” level of larp.
And as a final note, the account is virulently racist towards Indian people, so Indian Twitter did some digging and realized that the pfp is just stolen from some random Chinese photographer. Like do people really think this is actually them lol
Probably a Gen 1.5/2 Chinese in the diaspora. Cultural orphans questioning their national identities are the worst kind of Chinese, worst than Boba liberals sometime
Oh then it’s 100% a Westoid spreading propaganda
Do you seriously think Chinese people are just incapable of being weird?
No, but it is very weird if someone actually from China described it as an ‘ethnostate’ when there are many more ethnicities in China than just Han. People here are mostly responding with data and arguments re: immigration, but this isn’t what the person is saying. They’re saying they’re against multiculturalism in China, which would mean different ethnicities and cultures living in China, which already exists. They’re not necessarily discussing immigration.
It does sound like something a Westoid would say to spread propaganda but also with the glaring ignorance of the situation on the ground of someone who hasn’t lived there.
when there are many more ethnicities in China than just Han
At the same time, the Han ethnic group is 92% of the population.
Fair point.
At the same time, the Ham ethnic group is 92% of the population.
China has fallen.
Being Chinese does not preclude one from being a Westoid
This person is
apparentlyallegedly a cop, which may explain thingsUnfortunately, all cops means all cops
Of fucking course
I’ve seen tons of anti-migrant sentiment on WeChat (I get my douyin slop content from the channels there), both from overseas Chinese and from accounts ostensibly within China. It started picking up mostly with the gammon riots in England earlier this year, continued apace since then
Me whipping out my ultimate counterargument on WeChat:
“What are we, a bunch of crackers?”
Same on xhs, some people really love the AfD there
Thank God China is “aUtHoRiTaRiAn”, just toss these scumbags into re-education camps. Problem solved.
Mind you, in a country as big as China you’re gonna get all sorts. I see plenty of Chinese on Xiaohongshu that embrace multiculturalism.
You find plenty of people who support multiculturalism in any country, you don’t need a billion people for there to be a range of opinions.
You could even find Israeli people who are for multiculturalism. I don’t know why people are so disbelieving or surprised that there are reactionaries in China, of course there are.
