• EstraDoll [she/her, he/him]@hexbear.net
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    i’ve been starving to death for years in a concentration camp as settlers live in my stolen home. 20% of everyone i know is dead and almost everyone i know has PTSD. i am actively being exterminated for my race

    a brown muslim family moved in down the block last week

    same-picture

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    It’s simple. Generally, nationalism in colonized and imperialized countries is progressive, as it moves against imperialism and (often) ethnic repression and genocide. Nationalism in the imperialist countries is deeply reactionary, it maintains imperialism, and causes ethnic repression and genocide.

    That’s why nationalist “socialist” groups in imperialist countries like MAGA “communists” are deeply founded in chauvanism and are closer to fascism than any flavor of socialism.

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      TBH, nationalism in colonized countries can easily and quickly become just as harmful as nationalisms of the imperialist core, so we should be vigilant about it and careful about relying on it.

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        I made sure to include generally before, I get what you mean. There’s no one recipe, oppose book worship and all that, but as a useful rule of thumb if a country that is being imperialized has a nationalist uprising against imperialism, it’s almost certainly a progressive movement contextually.

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        Nationalism is a key component of any liberation struggle, Ho Chi Minh himself said that it was nationalism what made him interested in communism and used the pseudonym “Nguyen the patriot” when he lived in France.

        Nationalism is not mutually exclusive from internationalism, in fact in the character of a national liberation struggle, nationalism is internationalism because it promotes the view that the people of any determinate place are capable of running their nation in contrast with the nationalism of the imperial core which promotes the view that these are inferior beings uncapable of doing so.

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          The problem is that the nationalism of the oppressed can very easily morph into the nationalism of the oppressors. Look at Poland, where pre-1918 nationalism was liberatory and post-1918 it seamlessly switched to oppressing ethnic minorities.

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    I didn’t know that the UK is now an apartheid state where white people have to pass through military checkpoints and non-whites are allowed to bomb them or take away their homes without fear of being punished by the law.

    Guess I’ll go get a house from some white family, unless of course none of what I said is true and chuds are just angry that there are black and brown people in their vicinity.

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      I didn’t know that the UK is now an apartheid state where white people have to pass through military checkpoints and non-whites are allowed to bomb them or take away their homes without fear of being punished by the law.

      sicko-wistful

    • White chuds actually think they’re discriminated against because they’re delusional. So this won’t even work on them because they’ve invented a reality in their decrepit minds that foreigners in their country are opressing them.

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    Nationalism in the imperial core is inherently racist while nationalism in colonized countries is inherently about recognition, these are polar opposites.

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    Baffling how people with “left” in their flair are spouting fascist drivel; by what metric do they think they measure left when they are totally congruent with those claiming to be right.

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    Once chuds start hypocrisy mongering like a troupe of brunch eating libs, then that’s when we know we’ve won the argument, not just on a personal level, but as a culture wide phenomenon

    This is fuckin bargaining from their side lmao

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      hypocrisy mongering

      And it’s totally ineffective because they don’t have the first clue about why we actually hold the positions we hold or what our underlying political and ethical framework is.

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        What’s even worse is they could just ask us, and we would gladly explain it to them. But they don’t want to hear what we have to say, they’ve already made up their minds. Every time we try to explain ourselves to them they immediately go full not-listening

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          It’s kind of telling that their strawman is always portrayed as a whiny loser that is always just auth-right but with role reversal.

          Kind of goes to show that they know we’re right deep down when their counter argument is “you just want the same thing I do! How dare you, it’s only ok when I do it!”

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    One of the more annoying aspects of this besides calling Palestinian resistance fash is that in the song he says “shit, me too” [that he wants his country back], i.e. that he knows that there are two kinds of groups with overlapping languages of fighting for their country and he correctly distinguishes between their levels of legitimacy. This is only an own or even really a comment if you are barely paying attention even to the snippets that outraged media are playing of the concert.