SF 2589 as introduced - 94th Legislature (2025 - 2026)
www.revisor.mn.gov

This came up in my health care forum.

Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.

This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.

Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.

This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.

It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.

    • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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      7 minutes ago

      Donald Ewen Cameron’s operation was running from what is today known as the Allen Memorial Institute (AMI), part of the Royal Victoria Hospital, and not to be confused with the non-governmental organization based in Montreal, AMI-Québec Agir contre la maladie mentale.

      Love how Donald Ewen Cameron gets exactly one sentence that doesn’t even describe anything he did, and is listed under the Canada section with zero mention of being funded by the CIA as part of MKULTRA (which also gets zero mention in the article).

      For those who don’t know, Donald Ewen Cameron posed as a normal doctor in Canada and took patients who came in with minor symptoms like headaches or anxiety disorders and put them into months-long comas without their consent to run CIA mind control and drug experiments on, including LSD and electroshock treatments at 30-40 times normal levels. The full extent of his abuse will never be known due to the destruction of records, but many people were severely traumatized with long term effects including, “incontinence, amnesia, forgetting how to talk, forgetting their parents, and thinking their interrogators were their parents.”

      After conducting these horrific, abusive “experiments” (torture) on innocent Canadians seeking medical help, with US government’s full knowledge and support, Cameron would go on to become president of several different organizations, including the American Psychiatric Association, the Canadian Psychiatric Association, and even the World Psychiatric Association.

      This is literally USA level stuff.

  • andros_rex@lemmy.world
    3·
    1 hour ago

    Psychiatric hospitals are also allowed to lie to you. You can go in voluntarily, and be upgraded to “involuntary” with no recourse.

    Mental health techs will lie - cause problems? Guess what, your notes now say that you are “paranoid” and “hear voices.” You’re “paranoid” because a tech beat the shit out of you two hours ago - you don’t hear voices, but you are “crazy” so obviously lying.

    Check what rights institutionalized people have in your state. I can tell you where I live, there are none.

  • LesserAbe@lemmy.world
    92·
    2 hours ago

    Lot of people here need to get informed and get a grip. Just because a bill is introduced doesn’t mean it will be passed. The overwhelming majority of bills that are introduced don’t pass. And this is in one state, not federal. And if the legislature passed it the governor may veto it, and it would certainly face legal challenge.

    I get that everything sucks right now and it feels like we’re getting attacked on every front. I get the administration is doing illegal stuff. We’re in for a rough time. Still: don’t give them power by acting like every idea they bring up is likely, or possible. This bill is just trolling, it’s so some nobody state level legislators will have a bullet point in their newsletter and a social media post.

  • Wren@lemmy.world
    2·
    34 minutes ago

    My first thought when reading this is….

    We’re mere weeks away from martial law.

    My second thoughts was, if this is the distraction- what is the other hand doing?

    • Wren@lemmy.world
      1·
      35 minutes ago

      I always thought it was a mental condition suffered by those who lack the cognitive function it takes to not vote for a fascist dictator.

  • elatedCatfish@lemm.eeEnglish
    21·
    9 hours ago

    This sounds like a great way to get a bunch of cops shot. Which is something they’re trying to push the death penalty for…

  • Sonicdemon86@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    8 hours ago

    I’ve contacted all those that I can. A director at NAMIMN did respond to my email stating that this bill won’t be heard at all. Still fucked up of them to even try.

  • casmael@lemm.ee
    44·
    11 hours ago

    Oh look it’s incredibly fucked up fascist policy again wow I’m so surprised who could have predicted this ?

  • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    21·
    10 hours ago

    “Trump Derangement Syndrome” means the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal persons that is in reaction to the policies and presidencies of President Donald J. Trump. Symptoms may include Trump-induced general hysteria, which produces an inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and signs of psychic pathology in President Donald J. Trump’s behavior. This may be expressed by: new text end new text begin (1) verbal expressions of intense hostility toward President Donald J. Trump; and new text end new text begin (2) overt acts of aggression and violence against anyone supporting President Donald J. Trump or anything that symbolizes President Donald J. Tru"

    Just in case you missed it

    • zephorah@lemm.eeOP
      2·
      7 hours ago

      What’s intense hostility these days? “Eat the rich”?

      A meme post that involves suggestion of a Trump micro penis?

      There’s too much interpretation left in the wind with some of those phrases.

  • bier@feddit.nl
    41·
    6 hours ago

    I’m not sure why Bill is presenting this shit, but he should stop!

  • salamandermander@lemmings.world
    751·
    13 hours ago

    This is literally how the soviet union suppressed dissent in the 80s. Disagreement with the party was legally considered a sign of psychological issues. They did this to replace the gulags.

    • zephorah@lemm.eeOP
      2·
      7 hours ago

      Having a human labeled as internally broken has always been effective. Even on the small scale, society takes a step back, maybe, at most, pities, but the label utterly destroys all leadership capacity due to the seed of doubt it plants in everyone.

  • uuldika@lemmy.ml
    41·
    12 hours ago

    it’s legislative shitposting/meme magic. one of them gets an idea for the meme: adding “Trump Derangement Syndrome” as a mental illness to troll the libs. it provokes a reaction in us, because it’s 2025 and for all we know the damn thing might pass at the rate the fascists are consuming the state, and the Republicans’ base feeds off of our panic and grief, fueling their schadenfreude. Republican voters are the real trolls; these legislators are just their proxies.

    basically, this is the meme magic formula that took 4chan from “ironic” Nazi trolls to an outright fascist resurgence across the West, that took Trump from a meme candidate to the Oval Office, that took the 51st State rhetoric from obvious hyperbole to deadly serious. it’s “just a joke” when you’re defending it, it’s “just trolling” when you’re pushing it through, and it’s “owning the libs” when you’re executing on it.

    • A_norny_mousse@feddit.org
      13·
      11 hours ago

      As long as you aren’t playing it down (I don’t think you are but not 100% sure) I’m with you. Historically, that’s how we got here.

      Still, it needs to be called out, every step of the way. The more such “troll legislation” passes - possibly unseen - the worse things get.

      Also, there’s no 3- or even more-D chess going on. MAGAGOP is just throwing shit at the wall, not too bothered if something doesn’t stick, but immediately ready to follow up if it does. So let’s make sure it doesn’t.

      • uuldika@lemmy.ml
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        1 hour ago

        definitely not playing it down. the whole point of meme magic is that it shifts the Overton window so bills like these can actually pass. it’s a kind of “irony laundering.” they “troll” the Left, the Left raises alarm, the Right keks and calls us hysterical, the Center sees us as crying wolf and tunes us out. the Right pushes the “troll” legislation as far as they can because “it’s just a prank bro,” until we’re weakened enough they can actually pass it.

        it’s like how the Right goads us into calling them “fascists” because they’re literally being fascists, the Right gaslights saying we’re always calling everyone “fascists,” until fascism reenters the Overton window because the Center thinks “fascism” doesn’t mean anything anymore.

        honestly, the Left should have used this kind of meme magic back when Republicans were calling centrist Dems Socialists. if we’d used this strategy as well as the Right did we could be executing Billionaires by now.