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pale white woman
There’s a difference
In a black dress.
Kat Dennings archetype
She just doesn’t age, does she?
Like fine Wine.
Stop turning us on like that
puts on eyeliner Goth
Does it count when I put on black nail polish? 💅🏻🖤
It’s black lipstick. That’s where goth begins
No, that’s emo.
As long as it’s on the toenails too
I have a friend who gives off moderate goth vibes, but she says she couldn’t hope to be goth - they are far too expert at accessorizing!
minimalist goth? that’s what I go for. I’m too impatient to put on a bunch of accessories. the fake eyelashes, black lipstick, and all black outfit gotta do
I wish I could get into the accessorizing. I bought studded bracelets and got a rash :(
apparel dermatitis SUCKS
If it’s a nickel allergy you can paint the metal part that touches your skin with nail polish to protect yourself.
I consider goth more a state of mind, myself.
I support non-white goths
Yes, 110%
At its core being a goth is about being non-conformist.
And reading Poe while sitting like a gargoyle on a tall church spire, and drinking coffee without any milk.
“Leave me alewn, I just want coffeh!”
I thought punks were the non conformists and goths were just… Goths?
The counterculture has different subgroups, but they fall under the same happy non-conformist family, for example hippies, bikers, otaku etc. Or at least that’s how I think of it.
I like this take. There could be a venn diagram of these and punks and goths would both be likely to wear black.
Goths are non conformists too. Isn’t shouting “conformist!” the whole joke every time the Goth kids show up in South Park?
I like the South Park breakdown actually. Goths hate the world and just kinda feel and vibe with the suffering; punks hate the world and are screwing “fuck you” at it.
For goths, I think the Smiths. “Meat is Murder,” working sucks, life sucks, I’m going to sing and feel bad about it and maybe kill myself. Get me out of this place! (Hating Morrissey is 100% valid, regardless of one’s opinions on veganism, if this is one’s first encounter with the man.)
Punks, Dead Kennedys. You think your life is bad? Well why don’t you take a “Cambodian Holiday”? Hang out with Pol Pot? Isn’t everything fucked? Let’s break shit. “Don’t forget to pack a wife?” There’s also an element of sexual aggression.
Emos, maybe American Football. The lyrics are less easy to read because they’re fuzzy and personal and emotional. >tfw no gf because I “Never Meant” to say that I just thought of her as a friend. To be “emo” really also needs to also have some math rock-ish elements, because it’s personal and about showing the guitarist’s individual skills somewhat.
Policing subcultures is like trying to hold oobleck though. I’m sure you can find counter examples, but I think this works in broad strokes.
Goth is closer to metal and classical to me, too, artistically. Type O, Evanescence, etc.
She seems nice.
Mary Shelly, original Goth Girl
She ran away from home, lost her virginity in a graveyard - probably on her mother’s grave, and kept her husband’s bone-encrusted heart in a box. Fuck your eyeliner.
Erm… original?
Why would a heart be bone-encrusted?
Iirc he had some condition or another that turned parts of his organs into bone. also iirc it was his liver, but they thought it was his heart.
Black hair helps. Black lipstick is a sure sign.
An even surer sign is when she talks about
sackingvisiting Rome
Or a white woman in black clothes, or nail Polish, or eyeliner, or in fishnets, or an e-girl or…
or nail Polish
I didn’t read that as you intended initially.
Goth e-girls are just Polish femboys
Oh yeah, it’s all coming together
you dont have to be white to have light skin or be goth
I have nothing to say except I fucking love black hair!!!
thicc
This is exactly why I love Japanese subcultures. Because their mainstream society is so rigid there is still a level of buy in that isn’t just aesthetics.
