God damnit all. I mean we knew Blinken was lying, deliberately not seeing the truth. But they couldn’t even get the actual state department to go along with it. They literally just fucking lied about their own investigation. And the most infuriating thing about it is these guys aren’t dumb. They knew something like this would come and from a respected source.
If we want to keep Israel as an ally there has to be accountability. The American people didn’t stand for South African apartheid and they won’t stand for this. It’s political suicide here at home and we’re going to end up with our most sensitive military technology in the hands of a rogue state.
Of course Neue-Nazi-loving Blinken would be hard at doing Modern Holocaust Denialism to support his favorite ethno-Fascist genociders.
Ofc. Blinken is a genocidal trash bag.
Aiding genocide is just another Tuesday in a long long line of Tuesdays.
Really hoping Harris pivots on this once the elections are over.
ANTIZIONISTS IN CONTROL
HARRIS IS JUST PRETENDING TO SUPPORT ISRAEL TO TRICK THE DEEP STATE
TRUST THE PLAN
Lol no she won’t
How do you explain things like her refusal to let a Palestinian speak at the DNC? Or how she re-commits herself to Israel’s “defense” whenever asked?
I want some of that hope, but it seems like facts are pointing in the other direction.
Election campaigning. She’s trying to win over voters, and while we like to think she could do that by just going full-on progressive, it’s just not backed up by the numbers. Suburban moderates are necessary to achieve victory, so she’s courting them, along with any conveniently available gop defectors. They lean more pro-Israel than we do, so, so does her election strategy.
Not everyone in the electorate cares much about the plight of Palestinians, a significant number of people remember the Intifadas not as some sort of just campaign for liberation, but as a widespread rash of suicide bombings on civilians just trying to live their day-to-day. They don’t want to see the US cave to that by turning our backs on an established ally.
This is why it remains important to continue grassroots efforts to bring light to the difference between innocent Palestinians and Jihadists, incidentally. Mainstream America isn’t going to jump on any sort of reclaim-Palestine-from-the-colonial-oppressors rhetoric any time soon. Peaceful co-existence by pressuring the Israeli government, supporting Israeli peace protestors and reminding people not all Palestinians are hostile militants is a different story though, that’s potentially achievable. If the electorate continues to swing, more of the politicians will get room to follow. Especially since we don’t actually need Israel’s geostrategic position any more, as of the past decade or two. We have more leverage than we used to.
You’re right, and none of that gives me hope that Harris will pivot.
The re-elect Harris campaign will start on January 20th, and the political reality you just described will still exist.
Changing stances on Israel’s genocide will take leadership, which is something we haven’t seen from the Harris campaign. It is not Harris leading a campaign on principle, it is the polls leading the Harris campaign, just as you described it.
Those suburban moderates’ views can be changed, they just have never been exposed to an opposing message. The news says Israel is the good guys and Hamas is the bad guys; only those on the fringes say otherwise. If Harris would show leadership and take a principled stance on the side of humanity, she could bring most of these low information moderate voters with her.
This is a false hope every single time. Once she is in office, the structures she will face - Pentagon, Congress, “deep state” (long-standing war-on-terror era bureaucracy) will constrain her even harder. ASSUMING she isn’t another ideological and moral Israeli loyalist, which is a little hard to believe about someone who celebrated Seder in the White House with her Israeli-American husband by serving wine from a West Bank settlement.
I swear this Trumpian deep state crap somehow seeps into everything.
But she also didn’t attend Netanyahu’s speech and actually has been quite critical of the war in Gaza. But yes, don’t expect miracles. I still think she will be more critical of the Israelian government and whether this leads to a ceasefire or not is to be seen.
But in any case she will be harder on them than Trump, who moved the US embassy to Jerusalem during his presidency and offered the “peace deal of the century”. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_peace_plan#:~:text=The stated purpose of the,both parties to the conflict.
We’ll see. I’m not so sure that 4 years from now the electorate will look just like how it looks today. I also suspect she can make a bolder move in the first year than she can in the latter half. Biden doesn’t draw nearly the level of heat over the Afghanistan pullout as he did a couple years ago, after all. The electorate has a notoriously short memory.
So, she does have some space to demonstrate that exact sort of leadership, and it could very much benefit her in the long run. It’ll have to outweigh all the AIPAC money on the other side, though, that’s another consideration balanced against how successful she has been with small dollar donations. So, remains to be seen how the calculus all falls out.
Me not understand. Me single issue Lemmy voter. Why Kamama not shit on own constituency for paltry gesture that change nothing? Why Kamama?! Why?!
Hopium
The kids are using wishcasting now, but it’s still the same thing.
Better than despairium. lol We’ll see though. Election rhetoric is one thing, policy is another. Biden is from a whole different generation, so there’s an opportunity there.
Opportunity, yes. Moral wherewithal, maybe.
Blinken is only there because Biden needed someone willing to throw every last shred of integrity they have out the window.
It’s maddening that the party keeps demanding random republicans endorse Harris because Trump is so bad, but Harris won’t even admit that best case scenario Bidens brain is just as cooked.
Worst case scenario he’s mind isn’t gone and he’s still supporting a genocide.
But either way, grandpa shouldnt get to drive home from country Kitchen Buffet “one more time” when we all know he can’t drive. Either he should have stopped down, or gotten the 25th by now.
Biden is bad in this subject. Trump would be massively worse not only here but virtually everywhere else too
One supports Fascism at home, the other supports ethno-Fascist Genocide abroad.
The distance between one posture and the other is small and far more easy to transverse than people want to believe, whilst the distance between supporting Fascism at home and not supporting Fascism at all (much less the same type of Fascism as the Nazis, whilst actively commiting Genocide) is pretty much an impassable chasm.
Just because their Theater Of Morality is different doesn’t mean Biden and the DNC are significantly less pro-Authoritarianism than Trump and his cronies.
No one is disagreeing with that.
But using trump to defend supporting a genocide and cutting off aid to its victims will only depress turnout and help trump win.
What would help stop trump is the rest of the party (especially Harris) calling out Biden despite having the same letter by their name
With the added benefit of you know…
Not supporting a genocide and cutting off aid to its victims…
If you use trump to excuse this then how is that different than people excusing Trump’s extremely dangerous faults because they think Dems would potentially be worse?
Standards only matter if you hold your own “team” to them, if you don’t they’re not standards.
we all know
No, actually, some of us have more exacting standards for medical diagnosis than armchair theorizing.
Whoever that is.
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ProPublica is left. Lmao. Every time I think I’ve seen the worst take from these guys they one up the last one.
