• Demigodrick@lemmy.zip
        2·
        19 hours ago

        I’ve reviewed their votes and there’s nothing to suggest they interact with your account regularly or are manipulating any downvotes.

    • Sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works
      62·
      2 days ago

      I haven’t watched newer works in the Star Wars franchise but in my opinion Star Wars doesn’t qualify as science fiction but is more like a space fantasy story.

      Science fiction is more like a thought experiment: What would happen if society or technology would develop in this or that way? That’s what Star Trek is doing for the most part (at least the older installments).

      Edit: To be clear: I am not saying, Star Wars is bad. It is obviously highly regarded for a good reason. Im just saying it’s not science fiction.

      • 3abas@lemmy.world
        21·
        2 days ago

        Right, intelligent aliens communicating, governing, trading, and fighting alongside humans in interstellar wars with faster-than-light travel, space lasers, artificial intelligence, autonomous robots, planet-destroying superweapons, cybernetics, cloning, advanced prosthetics, and energy weapons does not qualify as science fiction because it also has mysticism, prophecy, telekinesis, and sword fights…

        • Sockenklaus@sh.itjust.works
          22·
          2 days ago

          Nah that’s not my point at all. I’m not saying all that space, alien and tech stuff doesn’t qualify as sci-fi because of the mysticism/prophecy/magic. My point is that you could probably tell Star Wars’ tale just as well without all those aspects in a traditional fantasy setting for example. Sci-fi, in my opinion, utilizes science or technology to start thought experiments and tell stories that wouldn’t be possible.

          Take for example “Do Androids dream of electric sheep?” (the book Bladerunner is based on): The story tackles the ethical question at which point an artificial lifeform can be considered a person and should be treated as such. This is classic sci-fi: Take a fictional advanced technology and discuss the ethical or societal problems that may result from this technology.

          This is something at least classic Star Trek does quite often while most of Star Wars’ technology could very well be replaced by fantasy elements without the underlying story being fundamentally different.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
    2·
    2 days ago

    I’m going to change that “or” to an “and” in the interests of non-divisiveness. I’ve enjoyed both, and others not on the list as well.

  • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksMEnglish
    11·
    3 days ago

    Both.

    Grew up with Star Wars as I have an older brother who had IV-VI on VHS.

    Later in life I found myself in a job that took me offshore without internet access, so I needed something to watch on my laptop. As I considered myself a geek, and having never watched Star Trek, I torrented all of star trek and brought it with me. I started with The Cage, went over to Original series, and so forth. Last I saw was Enterprise.

      • chunes@lemmy.world
        2·
        3 days ago

        Holy shit I’ve been trying to find that show for years! I almost convinced myself that I dreamt it up. Thanks

        • zabadoh@ani.social
          1·
          3 days ago

          Space: Above And Beyond

          Like Star Trek TOS, it didn’t do well in its original TV airings 1995-1996

          Then for some reason, it became a staple of daytime reruns in the 2000s or 2010s.

          It was written by the X-Files duo of Glen Morgan and James Wong, so that’s why it’s got writing chops.

        • Andy@slrpnk.net
          2·
          3 days ago

          This is what I came to say.

          I think because of the comedy it often gets overlooked as a genuine Star Trek show. And that’s a mistake.

        • cattywampas@lemmy.world
          32·
          3 days ago

          I like Lower Decks. But I wouldn’t put it anywhere near the same tier in Star Trek relative to Andor in Star Wars. It’s basically Memory Alpha: The Show. It’s entertaining but it primarily serves as a vehicle for Easter eggs, references, cameos, and satire.

          • Andy@slrpnk.net
            4·
            3 days ago

            Hard disagree.

            The characters and stories stand on their own. The jokes are great too, but ultimately, I care about the characters and their journeys as much as I cared about the TNG Enterprise crew.

            It’s got real heart.

            • quediuspayu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
              22·
              3 days ago

              I agree with both of you. I liked it a lot but I would liked it more if it had less references that often felt too easy or forced.

              • homes@piefed.worldEnglish
                2·
                3 days ago

                I find that ironic for a show whose major theme is accepting things for what they are rather than for what you expect them to be

                • cattywampas@lemmy.world
                  21·
                  3 days ago

                  We’re not saying Star Trek is “supposed to be” a certain way, but we’re still allowed to like or dislike it. I’m not one of these chuds who says DIS or LD or STA isn’t “real Trek” or isn’t canon, but I still don’t love them.

      • Rhaedas@fedia.io
        2·
        3 days ago

        The section from Andor to Return of the Jedi is the plateau of Star Wars. The rest have good parts, even great ones, but that stretch is the core.

        Star Trek isn’t as obvious, it’s a scattershot of ups and down all the way through. Which is appropriate, as most of it is episodic with mainly references holding it together.