I like Lower Decks. But I wouldn’t put it anywhere near the same tier in Star Trek relative to Andor in Star Wars. It’s basically Memory Alpha: The Show. It’s entertaining but it primarily serves as a vehicle for Easter eggs, references, cameos, and satire.
The characters and stories stand on their own. The jokes are great too, but ultimately, I care about the characters and their journeys as much as I cared about the TNG Enterprise crew.
We’re not saying Star Trek is “supposed to be” a certain way, but we’re still allowed to like or dislike it. I’m not one of these chuds who says DIS or LD or STA isn’t “real Trek” or isn’t canon, but I still don’t love them.
The section from Andor to Return of the Jedi is the plateau of Star Wars. The rest have good parts, even great ones, but that stretch is the core.
Star Trek isn’t as obvious, it’s a scattershot of ups and down all the way through. Which is appropriate, as most of it is episodic with mainly references holding it together.
With the exception of Andor.
And lower decks
This is what I came to say.
I think because of the comedy it often gets overlooked as a genuine Star Trek show. And that’s a mistake.
I like Lower Decks. But I wouldn’t put it anywhere near the same tier in Star Trek relative to Andor in Star Wars. It’s basically Memory Alpha: The Show. It’s entertaining but it primarily serves as a vehicle for Easter eggs, references, cameos, and satire.
Hard disagree.
The characters and stories stand on their own. The jokes are great too, but ultimately, I care about the characters and their journeys as much as I cared about the TNG Enterprise crew.
It’s got real heart.
I agree with both of you. I liked it a lot but I would liked it more if it had less references that often felt too easy or forced.
I find that ironic for a show whose major theme is accepting things for what they are rather than for what you expect them to be
What are you talking about?
I’m talking about the main theme of the show. How did you miss it?
We’re not saying Star Trek is “supposed to be” a certain way, but we’re still allowed to like or dislike it. I’m not one of these chuds who says DIS or LD or STA isn’t “real Trek” or isn’t canon, but I still don’t love them.
I never claimed anyone did
I never said anyone wasn’t
The section from Andor to Return of the Jedi is the plateau of Star Wars. The rest have good parts, even great ones, but that stretch is the core.
Star Trek isn’t as obvious, it’s a scattershot of ups and down all the way through. Which is appropriate, as most of it is episodic with mainly references holding it together.