• BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today
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    They don’t get to “decide” that, we do. They can announce it, but we don’t have to accept it, and we won’t.

    We have NEVER cancelled an election in America, not even during the Civil War, or WWII. That is a BRIGHT RED LINE.

    Any suspension or cancellation of elections means INSTANT Civil War, and we go directly after the wealthy and their political and law enforcement stooges.

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      They get to decide to station ICE agents at polling stations and intimidate everyone who looks like they might vote for a Democrat. They’ll get to decide to not certify the results of elections they don’t like, too.

      And we are not organized enough to fight back. The only thing Democrats might do is take them to Court to stop ICE deployment at polling stations or force them to accept election results, and the fascists own the Supreme Court.

      We need to get ready.

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        Your fears are valid, but the fact that we already recognize the threat is half the battle. During the Biden administration, they ignored the obvious growing threat, but that’s not happening this time.

        Trump made an enormous mistake firing all those DoJ lawyers, because many of them have formed boutique law firms with specializations, who are suing the administration, and winning, a LOT. Jeffries may be sitting on his fat, stupid brain, but these lawyers aren’t. They are fighting back, and winning, and we can help them by not losing hope, and voting HARD in November.

        Hopefully Jeffries loses his primary on June 23, and they choose someone else to lead the House, like AOC. He was running unopposed until a 27 year old Mamdani supporter filed papers last Monday. Jeffries is now in the race for his life against a young candidate with very popular support. Jeffries is in real trouble. Now is the time to send a STRONG message, and scare the crap out of the Dems. They’ll learn to do what we hired them to do, or they’re fired.

        And don’t worry about ICE Apes at the polls, nobody is scared of them, except undocumented immigrants, and NONE of them are at the polls, so they have no reason to interact with American Citizen Voters at all. They’ll just be subjected to an entire day of trash talk and humiliation, as thousands of embarrassing videos get uploaded. I doubt they last an hour, before the humiliating videos hit the Internet, and their bosses pull them out.

        Tell them:

        Your kids HATE you for what you do, and will hate you FOREVER for it.

        Your wife hates you because she’s lost friends over you.

        Everybody you know has lost all respect for you.

        Nobody you know respects you, except these other losers.

        You will carry the shame of this job with you for the rest of your life.

        The people at church despise you.

        Nobody will play with your kids because of you.

        Your kids get bullied at school because of YOU.

        Etc. Make it deeply, viscerally personal. MAGAs are one of the few groups for whom bullying is not acceptable, and encouraged, but also Patriotic. Amti-vaxxers, too. So bully them relentlessly. Make them cry.

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          And don’t worry about ICE Apes at the polls, nobody is scared of them, except undocumented immigrants, and NONE of them are at the polls,

          They’ll go after anyone who doesn’t look like they vote Republican.

          Anyone who isn’t white might need to carry several forms of ID to not be arrested by ICE at polling stations, and if they get arrested then they’ll just be held for long enough that the polling stations close. I’m trans and I don’t really match my government issued ID, there’s a nonzero chance I’ll be arrested when I try to vote. Or maybe I’ll be killed, it’s not like ICE hasn’t killed other citizens.

          You aren’t taking this seriously.

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            I’m taking it DEAD seriously. I just don’t think American Citizens showing on Election Day on THIS PARTICULAR ELECTION DAY are going to take any crap. ICE is going to find a very hostile environment if they show up.

            If they get violent, I think it is very likely that they will be met with violence. This is LITERALLY our VOTES. I can’t think of anything more worthy of getting violent about. If we won’t fight for our right to VOTE, directly in front of the POLLS, what will we fight for?

            And that environment hurts their side just as bad as ours. Conservatives are notoriously cowardly, that’s why they’re conservatives - they are afraid of everything, and are desperate for protection - and MAGAs are worst of all. If there are threats of violence and riots at the polls, they are likely to stay home, which they are going to be inclined to do anyway.

            ICE Apes at the polls is intimidation, nothing more, they probably won’t even show up.

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        Your fears are valid, but the fact that we already recognize the threat is half the battle. During the Biden administration, they ignored the obvious growing threat, but that’s not happening this time.

        Trump made an enormous mistake firing all those DoJ lawyers, because many of them have formed boutique law firms with specializations, who are suing the administration, and winning, a LOT. Jeffries may be sitting on his fat, stupid brain, but these lawyers aren’t.

        Hopefully Jeffries loses his primary on June 23, and they choose someone else to lead the House, like AOC.

        And don’t worry about ICE Apes at the polls, nobody is scared of them. They’ll just be subjected to an entire day of trash talk and humiliation, as thousands of embarrassing videos get uploaded.

        Tell them:

        Their kids HATE them for what they do, and will hate them FOREVER for it.

        Everybody they know has lost all respect for them.

        You will carry the shame of this job with you for the rest of your life.

        The people at church despise them.

        Nobody will play with their kids because of them.

        Etc. Make it deeply, viscerally personal. MAGAs are one of the few groups for whom bullying is not acceptable, and encouraged, but also Patriotic. Amti-vaxxers, too. So bully them relentlessly. Make them cry.