Yeah I don’t understand that either, but thank you for the explanation!
Ok so further simplifying, Straw man fallacy is per wikipedia, the refuting of an argument by refuting a different argument that is not part of the original context, and failing to recognize the distinction.
So here, people refute feminists by using the stawman of them wanting to blow up the earth / being extremists? I feel like something has to come back to training bras, like societal expectations of underwear for women is the argument, but then the straw man is radical feminism?
Goddamn I really am not getting the humor in this one. I’m not trying to be obtuse or overly PC, I really enjoy comics and just want to understand the humor because it seems really abstract to me.
It’s making fun of people getting all worked up about their (extreme) idea of feminists. Usually, they’ll also picture these straw feminists as not wearing bras, so presumably they’re lurking at the training bra section to prey on young children about to get their first bra.
People tend to overdemonize feminists and what feminism stands for. This comic is making fun of that by portraying an absurdist scenario where a perfectly normal feminine practice: getting a training bra, is beset by moon-dwelling feminists who seek to destroy the earth.
Instead of, well, recognizing and demanding equality. The original straw man antifeminists make is to deviate from the idea that feminism is about equality. That’s probably the critical foundation this comic needs to make sense as that’s what it is poking fun at.
totally agree and this experience does make sense to me, people paint feminists very broadly and stupidly - personal anecdote I remember being blown away in college that being a feminist could simply mean supporting the right for women to vote, have equal pay, ect.
I had heard terms like “feminazi” growing up, so the picture in my mind was more similar to the comic than I think I initially realized when reading it.
It’s a play on words. The Straw Man fallacy is where someone invents a fake target to it make it easier to attack rhetorically. Plenty of rightists use straw man arguments to attack the concept of feminism, misrepresenting it to make it easier to vilify. The comic depicts two characters that are the personification of right-wing straw man arguments about feminism, but elevated to a comical level of absurdity. In this case “feminists are recruiting children to help destroy the planet.”
this hits it for me, thank you, I came to the understanding above that I had been painted this exact picture when I was younger, but learned better in college.
I think I was a bit blind to the fact that some people still paint the absurd picture of feminists shown above, I forget how far we still have to go as a species sometimes.
Yeah I don’t understand that either, but thank you for the explanation!
Ok so further simplifying, Straw man fallacy is per wikipedia, the refuting of an argument by refuting a different argument that is not part of the original context, and failing to recognize the distinction.
So here, people refute feminists by using the stawman of them wanting to blow up the earth / being extremists? I feel like something has to come back to training bras, like societal expectations of underwear for women is the argument, but then the straw man is radical feminism?
Goddamn I really am not getting the humor in this one. I’m not trying to be obtuse or overly PC, I really enjoy comics and just want to understand the humor because it seems really abstract to me.
It’s making fun of people getting all worked up about their (extreme) idea of feminists. Usually, they’ll also picture these straw feminists as not wearing bras, so presumably they’re lurking at the training bra section to prey on young children about to get their first bra.
Ok this makes sense and is the direction I was heading in at the end there (glad I wasn’t just blindly groping), thank you!!
People tend to overdemonize feminists and what feminism stands for. This comic is making fun of that by portraying an absurdist scenario where a perfectly normal feminine practice: getting a training bra, is beset by moon-dwelling feminists who seek to destroy the earth.
Instead of, well, recognizing and demanding equality. The original straw man antifeminists make is to deviate from the idea that feminism is about equality. That’s probably the critical foundation this comic needs to make sense as that’s what it is poking fun at.
totally agree and this experience does make sense to me, people paint feminists very broadly and stupidly - personal anecdote I remember being blown away in college that being a feminist could simply mean supporting the right for women to vote, have equal pay, ect.
I had heard terms like “feminazi” growing up, so the picture in my mind was more similar to the comic than I think I initially realized when reading it.
It’s a play on words. The Straw Man fallacy is where someone invents a fake target to it make it easier to attack rhetorically. Plenty of rightists use straw man arguments to attack the concept of feminism, misrepresenting it to make it easier to vilify. The comic depicts two characters that are the personification of right-wing straw man arguments about feminism, but elevated to a comical level of absurdity. In this case “feminists are recruiting children to help destroy the planet.”
this hits it for me, thank you, I came to the understanding above that I had been painted this exact picture when I was younger, but learned better in college.
I think I was a bit blind to the fact that some people still paint the absurd picture of feminists shown above, I forget how far we still have to go as a species sometimes.