“The people that are the most susceptible to the corporate bullshit tended to choose the worst solutions to those problems on a consistent basis,” Littrell said.

Hmmmmmmmm.

Well that goes some way partially to explaining why management at large corporations almost as a rule are uselessly incompetent.

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    I’m a programmer. I’m literally paid to think. The number of times I’ve had to attend a corporate wide event and been asked to just not think about the shit they are spewing is unacceptable–and every time the sales guys just lap it all up.

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      Oh interesting I thought the job of a programmer was to be paid to fix AI slop vibe code made by clueless management who would have done better by coming to you and asking you to think in the first place.

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      But also, when they ‘think’ of something, it’s basically your fault of their idea doesn’t work, even if you told them why it wouldn’t work.

      I had a … VP of Marketing, basically, once suggest to me that I ‘implement the blockchain’ … into our entire PostgreSQL system.

      … These people are an idiot nobility, its just their thought patterns that are inbred, this time.

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      Uuh I feel you, my older job got worse and worse until it had up to 25 meetings a week… All bullshit.

      When I complained it was first brushed off as not true, then I screenshotted a week with 25 meetings (senior software dev, but not manager) and that got some attention finally and actions were taken to reduce the number of meetings.

      So they started with “stand up meetings” doesn’t count, so those 5 meetings does not count … (So down to 20, right?) Because they are not meetings, right? Stand up Meetings

      And all mandatory of course, except they said they were not, miss obe and you’d get problems and childish lectures about corpo culture and crap.

      Can’t make that shit up. And yeah, people running on hot air love corporate speak and corporate everything ugh, probably they think they’re finally productive or something.

      /Rant off!

      I’m no longer there, good luck to you!

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        “Standups” by video call where everyone is sitting. That sounds like corporate thinking.

        Just this week I had someone try and book a half hour call with me to get the url for a repository.

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      Not surprised. Sales is the art of presenting an emotional call to agreement and making people think they got there intellectually. Corporate bullshit is very similar

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    Littrell noted the workers who participated in the study all came from highly educated backgrounds in HR, accounting, marketing and finance, had bachelor’s degrees and even PhDs, which shows the findings go beyond simply assessing the intelligence of the study participants.

    Actually, I’m not convinced that we’ve managed to eliminate that hypothesis. The only group that gives me pause is accounting.

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      “Study finds graduates of programs that require colouring inside the lines do well at colouring inside the lines at work.”

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        A PhD is when you know everything about one specific rock on the beach, is how I put it. You know exactly where it is, all of its properties, and can go to it any time. Outside of that one rock, maybe a slightly above-average person, but nothing special.

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          Yup, pretty much. Someone who learnt all the bits and bobs of that rock; but that doesn’t mean the person has strong cognitive capabilities, not even to solve tasks related to that rock.

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      All of those sound structured backgrounds that apply fixed definitions and derivatives based on that. They lack a developed sense of creativity outside the rigidity of their domain and so, are pretty much biological LLMs after a decade of purposed training and instructions.

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        so, are pretty much biological LLMs after a decade of purposed training and instructions.

        🤯

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      Most of us can see this for ourselves, but anecdotes don’t move the needle. So, yes, studies with numbers and charts make a difference, sometimes.

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      Oh man, I was part of a small non profit for years. I loved it.

      I quit once they decided they needed a mission statement, because the enshittification had begun. And now instead of doing work and standing on their own, they are on social media grandstanding for clout and begging for money… because it was no longer about doing good work and helping people, it was about getting a fatter paycheck. And you get that by leaning into the corporate bullshit marketing crap.

      I’m a programmer. I’m literally paid to think. The number of times I’ve had to attend a corporate wide event and been asked to just not think about the shit they are spewing is unacceptable–and every time the sales guys just lap it all up.

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    You’re not relaying accurately: the underachievers and floating job cancers pretend to fall for corporate bullshit because being cheerleaders covers up their ineptitude.