The president seems determined to ruin any gains he made among younger voters at the 2024 election.
  • Janx@piefed.socialEnglish
    891·
    8 days ago

    Duh. He’s betrayed you a thousand times before that, but you overlooked it because he was hurting the people you hate! Grow the fuck up.

  • newtraditionalists@kbin.melroy.org
    36·
    8 days ago

    I hope they stick with their plan to not vote for the rest of their lives. They have proven they dont possess enough critical thinking skills to give that responsibility the consideration it deserves.

  • Harvey656@lemmy.worldEnglish
    31·
    8 days ago

    The worst part about all this is the fact that they are young. What kind of hate fueled, evil upbringing did they receive that would cause them to think voting for trump was ever a good idea?

    We should be doing more to try and help the younger generation see the light before they become older, angrier and set in their ways.

    Do we have a support com for ex-right wingers?

    • StinkyFingerItchyBum@lemmy.caBannedEnglish
      16·
      7 days ago

      What kind of hate fueled, evil upbringing did they receive that would cause them to think voting for trump was ever a good idea?

      Have you been to the US in the last 25 years and done such provocative things as turned on the TV, read the news, gone to school or listened to talk radio in the car?

      • Harvey656@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        8 days ago

        I mean, I live here sadly. But I honestly never saw much of this coming. Maybe I was just blind or used to these things, I can’t quite remember exactly how I felt when many of these changes started getting real traction, but it hit me like a bus in 2016 with trump and his first term. It was a whole world of idiots that just suddenly existed, ruining the country. It was probably already ruined, and I just didn’t see it. :(

        • HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth
          4·
          7 days ago

          Here’s a sort open-faced compliment sandwich.

          You were smart enough to avoid shitty media like cable news, FM talk radio, manosphere podcasts, so you avoided the propaganda that those channels were spewing.

          But this left you blind to how many people either a) don’t have access to better forms of media and education, or b) actively seeked out the propaganda.

          I don’t really have a top bun for this sandwich.

          • Harvey656@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3·
            7 days ago

            Lol thanks. Its distressing how many seem to seek out hatred. I wonder how far back this issue really goes.

        • EntheoNaut@lemmy.mlEnglish
          4·
          8 days ago

          Yeah you weren’t paying attention or ur still a young buck. It became clear as day when Bush Jr stole the election from Al Gore over hanging chads in 2000.

          That set the stage for this millennia and it’s been increasingly more blatant and apparent every year.

    • Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.caEnglish
      14·
      8 days ago

      I don’t think it was necessarily hate-fueled. It was Influencers and other paid actors making it seem like an ok thing to do, and to stick it to the establishment/elites (misidentified as left, instead of ultra rich), and Dems as evil as GOP. There is a reason that recruitment age for military is 18yo - it is the age where people know alot but understand less and can more easily be influenced. As the first gen fully raised in an online world, they didn’t stand a chance of knowing how to combat the algorithms. Not any more than their grandparents knew how to battle the new ‘TV ads’. Outside the USA, much of American thought is understood as weird and driven by state propaganda - a different version of North Korea.

        • friedmag@lemmy.mlEnglish
          3·
          7 days ago

          It only looks that way right now because the state is fully aligned with oligarchy (one could argue this isn’t new, but how blatant it has become in unquestionable). Fox News is as it has always been, turning the masses on one another for the benefit of the wealthy.

    • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      7 days ago

      It comes from their families. Families that highlight in-group vs out-group. Parents that openly make racist jokes, and if you were to call them out, they’d argue Fox News talking points with absolute confidence to make you seem/feel stupid in comparison. It’s vicious and self-reinforcing. Most youngin’s who go on to explore the world themselves can have their minds open, but when they live at home with people full of hate and vitriol, they’re inundated with it. Their brains are full of propaganda, and if their household follows so-called “republican values,” chances are that any questioning is swiftly squashed - can’t question the leader, after all.

      When republicans complain about outside ideas destroying family values, what they really mean is, “New ideas might break our mind-control over our kids.” It makes sense they’re scared of it. Unfortunately, the drive to break this will have to come from outside their families - which is an uphill battle when the kids are taught that their family beliefs are the rule.

      The best things we can do are encourage skepticism and support those who’ve broken free. Planting seeds of doubt, and fostering their growth, is key to relinquishing the hold of childhood propaganda. It’s not easy, it’s a slow process, and we won’t immediately see returns, but it’s the most surefire way to get these young people to see the light. What’s their reasoning? Make them reflect on it. Get them to truly consider what they value and why. Over time they may realize that they don’t actually believe what they were taught to believe, and that’s when they have a chance to break free.

    • Hanrahan@slrpnk.netEnglish
      6·
      8 days ago

      i was a conservative when i was younger but for some perspective, that’s an Australian conservative who at the time (1980s) would have made me a far left commie in American terms. Now at 60, green anarchist :)

      18 yrs old ,confident in my ignorance, but to be fair at age 60, now I’m confident I’m ignorant.

      • aceshigh@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        8 days ago

        That’s the difference between young and old. Youth sees simplicity, experience sees complexity. Systems thinkkng for the win.

  • Ech@lemmy.caEnglish
    251·
    8 days ago

    But everything else was totally fine, I guess. Fucking lunatics.

    • Sundray@lemmus.orgEnglish
      18·
      8 days ago

      Exactly. No sympathy for these choads. They were told that all the brown people would be gone, and the MAGA-Youth was supposed to get rich, and they ate it right up. Now that these sociopaths are starting to wonder why they’re not getting the goodies they were promised. I say let them go cry into their creatine and MMA.

  • Janx@piefed.socialEnglish
    14·
    7 days ago

    “President Trump campaigned proudly on his promise to deny the Iranian regime the ability to develop a nuclear weapon, which is what this noble operation is seeking to accomplish,” White House spokesman Davis Ingle told the Washington Post.

    Fucking incompetent, asshole, liars. Trump withdrew us from the Iran nuclear deal in 2018 that Iran had been abiding by. It was working, you dumb fucks! But petty Trump ripped it up simply because Obama was a part of it…

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Comprehensive_Plan_of_Action