• axont [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    3 months ago

    At this point I barely even know who the libs are talking about. I know what they mean by a tankie, they mean someone identifiable leftist who expresses sympathy for the west’s enemies.

    But where are they even interacting with tankies anymore? Who have they identified as tankie leadership? Hasan Piker? Mark Ruffalo? I have a feeling liberals will simply get into arguments on Twitter and that’s who they figure their political enemies are. Like who are they kidding, smash red fascism? They gonna start sending anti-antifa to harass PSL? Are they gonna go surround a Marxist bookclub or harass one of those North Korea friendship orgs full of elderly Koreans? Good luck I guess

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      3 months ago

      I believe what they’re doing is pre-preparation for an eventual future where they have to oppose a vanguard party that is gaining real ground. The preparation is essentially “ew no ignore those people, they are tankies” so that people close their eyes and ears to anyone from such parties before even hearing what they have to say.

      Right now it’s not that important but down the line they see a need to pre-program people for that response.

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        3 months ago

        Agreed, they’re responding to the genuine possibility of a communist vanguard party carrying out a revolution in the heart of the empire and building a proper worker’s state.

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          It’s going to hurt them because a lot of people are sort of confused about what the distinction between a tankie and a communist is. When people are confronted with a communist face to face in real life who is a genuinely nice person they’re not going to be thinking “tankie” in their head.

          Putting all of the anticommunist propaganda into the word tankie leaves a leaky hole through which support for communists will trickle even while those very same supporters still feel negativity to “tankies”.

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      I would have said it was anyone to the left of AOC, but it seems like they’re moving towards anyone to the left of Hillary Clinton.