• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    But I thought we hated cancel culture?

    Are… are you telling me that the right wingers are all selfcentered hypocrites?

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      Something, something, cancel culture IRL started with disco record burning and the Satanic Panic.

      Something, something, online cancel culture started with 4chan harassment campaigns, some of which were made to show teen girls that “actions have consequences” (read: slut shame them until they committed suicide, so 4chan people could post “An Hero” memes).

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      it is, but because “the left” has done it for years, decades even, maybe even centuries, it’s fair to do it back at them

      edit: i thought “centuries” would be over the top enough, but i guess not any more, so, to clarify, /s

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        “Cancel culture” has existed for as long as culture has existed. It has been practiced by essentially everyone at some point, for virtually every reason under the sun.

        We have called aspects of it boycott, exile, capital punishment/execution, mob rule, etc. I know those are all terms with their own meanings, but they also overlap to certain extent with what we call “cancel culture”.

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    Funny how they talk like hippies when it’s about them and like nazis when it’s about anyone else.

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    We’ve received over 150,000 site submissions in the past 24 hours. We need 50 - 100 volunteers to help us verify and publish. In addition, thousands of people are trying to destroy the site with abuse complaints, DDoS attempts, bot farm spam emails, and more. If you can help us verify submissions, please message us on the SUPPORT tab. Thank you.

    RIP

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      Protip: If you don’t have to record yourself screaming the N-word and provide your personal details, you can infiltrate them and destroy them from the inside.

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      Yup. That’s the playbook. DDoS this service by:

      • Generating fake tweets and reporting them.
      • Volunteering to fact check and do a bad job, actively sabotaging their data.
      • Gathering information to doxx the people who run the site.

      Bonus points for turning the wrath of this mob against MAGA types themselves.

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    The whois says registered to GoDaddy, but most of it seems to be hosted on something called wsimg.com which is under the registrar wild west domains. I would say everyone should report the site for illegal content but with a name like Wild West Domains I’m not sure they would care. Here it is anyway. https://supportcenter.secureserver.net/AbuseReport. You could also report to GoDaddy and to Domains by Proxy, LLC (owned by go daddy but a separate entity). Name and shame these fuckers as much as possible. Seems like the domains by proxy has been used for political hate speech before too.

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    Most of the hate seems to involve just quoting things he’s publicly said.

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      Because the truth hurts: Charlie Kirk was a sack of shit whose entire livelihood and career revolved around spreading hate and facilitating violence.

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        Buh buh buh , his wife and kids!!! He was a religious man and was bringing back faith!!!

        No he was a radical right wing racist who got famous by being hateful and spreading lies and propaganda. Most of the world didn’t even know he had a family, so it’s irrelevant at this point.

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          I hate the ‘he had a family’ line. Does that mean killing single men and women or people who never married makes it somehow OK? Like if Charlie Kirk was both single and celibate and said he was ‘married to his principles and mission’ (with no indication of being a closeted gay man or asexual) would that have made his murder more acceptable?

          Countless evil people were married and had kids. Stalin was known to be a doting father. Saddam was also known by his children as a very kind and affectionate father. Roy de Mayo, one of the most infamous mafia hitmen, had a family and his family life was so quiet and unremarkable that his children had absolutely no idea whatsoever that their father killed people for a living (and his son had a nervous breakdown when he saw the movie Murder Machine in the early 90s, which was about his then dead dad).

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            Agreed. Besides, if these people were concerned with what their children thought, they should’ve factored that in when making their decisions. The truth can’t hide forever (in the case of that last story), and the others (including Kirk) made their awful words and deeds public. If they never stopped to think, “What would my kids have to say about what I’m doing?” then why should it suddenly be our concern?

            Sorry your daddy was a piece of shit that didn’t care about the legacy or how it would reflect back on his children, but there’s no whitewashing what he publically stood for.

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              Kids of figures like Kirk have multiple possible outcome. Firstly they could just be their own person, live their own lives and not necessarily have anything to do with their father’s legacy. Second they could actively speak against what their father stood for, or they could walk in his footsteps and continue the hate.

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      This is a lot more sinister than “cancel culture”. Cancel culture was when someone with a platform expressed a bigoted opinion, gained a lot of attention, and caused a backlash.

      What these people are doing is actively and openly organising to encourage others to seek out, denounce and victimize anyone anywhere who doesn’t toe the line. It’s a modern-day Stasi.

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      For right-wing authoritarians, hypocrisy is a power-move. That’s how they prove to you that they have more power than you within society.

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      Old news: the “fuck your feelings” crowd operates entirely based on feelings and not facts. Truth will be distorted to keep them from feeling shame or humiliation

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    Lmao so glad I work in an industry that wouldn’t give a flying fuck if I danced on that Nazis grave. It would actually provide quite joy to watch them screech over failing to try to get me fired haha.

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    Their entire party is now built on hate. These people will sacrifice anything to support their hate. They are literally using hateful actions to support the memory of a hateful person. It’s just hate all the way down.

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            My mom and step dad are raging alcoholics. The further they fell into alcoholism, the more their love for Trump grew.

            They pop open their first Modelo (irony is dead) around 9am, at the latest.

            He definitely radicalized her over the years (been married on and off for 18 years), and has started physical fights with me since I was a kid. She never really defended me, and put him over me when they got married. She is a librarian, and used to be a 7th grade English teacher. I hate that she’s influencing children every day.

            They can rot in Alabama.

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              If it’s any consolation, such teachers aren’t usually student-favorites. Apathetic teachers are boring, while teachers with angry energy or who use their position for powertrips (as MAGA enjoys doing) make kids uncomfortable. It’s the teachers with patience and open minds that tend to be the most influential and remembered. If your mom acts the same way at work as she does at home, it’s hard to imagine the kids would choose her (out of everyone) as their role model.

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              As a non-American, what’s the irony here? Mexican beer?

              If so, I think “those types” have no qualms about Mexicans existing as long as they produce slightly cheaper goods and good beer in their own country - they just want the ones in the US to all die as soon as possible.

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                Another bit of irony is that they likely complain about an “open border”.

                Thought experiment; under what circumstances should a Mexican brewer be able to sell their sweet beverages into the United States? At the border, standing on tiptoes to hand a case of bottles over a wire fence, to receive dollars back from an American trader? Or, maybe shall we allow a system by which anyone can apply for permission to enter for trade needs…?

                Oh, but that would be an open border; because then people could apply, and then just choose not to go back. Hmmm. It’s a really interesting problem!

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      This is absolutely true, and the craziest part is that half of them don’t even know they’re supporting bad stuff (they think they are good people, but they are hopelessly ignorant and passively racist with no desire to change) while almost none of them seem to realize that they are the ones making themselves miserable all the damn time. (speaking from my personal experiences/acquaintances)

      Hate and negativity in every little nook and cranny of life. The kind of thing that makes people into dangerous and aggressive drivers when they are in no hurry to get anywhere.

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      the thing is, joking about his ironic death is the most fair game thing there is, as it has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not you liked or disliked him, or agreed or disagreed with his messages

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        fair game

        In a rational world, absolutely.

        But you’ve gotta play the game when Team Nazi wants to get you fired.

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          Anyone that is not betraying their country and country men should keep their mouths shut at work, and online in a way that could be explicitly read as against these guys. There is a way to criticize them satirically while sounding like you were agreeing with them and not communicating you are using satire. For a lot of people that would be the best option here.

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        There’s nothing ironic about it. He provided solid evidence in support of his point.

        What bothers me most is that the left is getting both the blame for doing it, and criticism for doing nothing.

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        For the time being we certainly at least still seem to be allowed, legally, to joke about it. That said…

        Worried about Stewart & Colbert & those kinds of folks. Imagine 0.00[…]1% of the deranged out there would be incensed by humor about “their” guy so I personally might not find the average joke at Kirk’s expense to be worth it. (Logic: political commentator on right is killed, those on left make jokes, guy on right gets super upset and kills a late night host on the left in part b/c a straw broke the camel’s back)

        On the side of those were alive I like speaking truth to power. For those who are no longer alive I like remembering their character (e.g. “purported free-speech proponent, marred by alleged issues of intellectual honesty, …” or something).

        btw

        btw hopefully I personally living in a way simply “remembering my character” isn’t offensive/shocking

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      I would rather joke on the irony and not support his message.

      I get where you are going, but even ironical support for those people cause is prone to backfire.

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    Sounds like a lot of companies are going to lose their best workers and those workers are going to leave a job that never gave them a raise and find a job paying them 1/3 more than they were making.