• Wilco@lemm.ee
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    1 day ago

    The Bene Gesserit probably come the closest to being the “good guys/girls” by the end.

    Everything they do is based on the mind numbing insanity that they have due to the fact that they can perceive every horrific action men have ever done to any woman that exists in “other memory”.

    The Bene Gesserit’s sole existence is based upon stopping the evil and violence of men no matter the cost.

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        Eugenics? C’mon! It’s not like they were trying to breed some kind of Übermensch, like some kinda Nazis. Get real.

        (reads Dune)

        Oh. Oh my. Well.

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        Yes, but to them it’s like breeding wolves to make domestic dogs.

        Eugenics is getting rid of a race … the BG are trying to get rid of man’s ability to do evil.

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            In Dune? Yes, the evil and brutal houses are still there. Mostly because Jessica messed up the breeding program. She basically made an uncontrollable war god that killed trillions.

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              Is reading comprehension that bad? No, there are still wolves around in real life because we didn’t kill the original species/gene pool of dogs, so it’s not genocide when we made wolves into dogs. Making men docile through genetic manipulation, such as breeding, is still genocide because making sure the original race/Genepool of normal/violent men is eradicated is the end goal.

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    This might be a controversial opinion. I’ve only read the main book and skimmed a few of the others. Plus I’ve seen the newer movies.

    But I feel like the Fremen just want to be left alone and protect their people. So I’d say they are the good guys. I don’t wanna spoil it, but the book version of them was better than the movie.

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      “The Fremen are the good guys. I’ve only read book one though.”

      Me:

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          Let’s put it this way. “Dune” was originally supposed to cover the events of “Dune” and “Dune: Messiah”, but the publisher said it was too long and needs to be two separate books.

          Let’s put it another way: if you cut out all the foreshadowing in “Dune” that hasn’t paid off by the end, the book could be like 1/3 shorter.

          Actually I was surprised it ended with a conventional happy ending (more or less) for our protagonists when I read it the first time.

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    the atredes, they are the protagonists /s

    jihads have always gone well, and leto 2 took the golden path. they must be the good guys /s

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      That’s one of the things that makes Dune so interesting… there are not many books from the bad guys point of view, let alone where you are supposed to recognize that the protagonist-- as you so snarkly noted – isn’t the good guy.

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            Oh man. Maybe we’ll get real AI one day that can write that book. It would have been such a good book.

            Nobody better fucking tell Brian Herbert this idea.