You make the choice based on the cards you’re dealt, not the ones you wished you have. Beyond the election though, because you have more time, you try to change the game. People have it ass backwards - trying to change the game during the election, then sit out the tenure whining about the raw deal they have.
Some people did try to change the game; anti-genocide protests had been going on since October and Uncommitted got going nine months before the election. Both were dismissed by basically the whole country.
You think nine months before an election is enough time to change a massive establishment like the DNC? Presidential campaigns take years of planning before candidates even announce their running.
You think a small percentage of voters in a few states whose only message is “Don’t vote for Biden” is the kind of action we need to “change the game”? If this is the kind of action lemmy progressives expect to take and make meaningful strides towards progress it’s absolutely no surprise nothing actually gets done. Maybe do something useful besides spreading fasicts voter suppression talking points and maybe start now instead of February 2028.
You think nine months before an election is enough time to change a massive establishment like the DNC?
No, but it’s certainly enough time to force their hand. They kept saying it was too late for Biden to step down and then, surprise surprise, he fucking stepped down four months before the election.
You think a small percentage of voters in a few states whose only message is “Don’t vote for Biden” is the kind of action we need to “change the game”?
Setting aside your obvious misrepresentation of the Uncommitted Movement, yeah so what the fuck did you want them to do? The genocide certainly didn’t care about the American electoral cycle. Maybe if people like you supported them they wouldn’t be a small percentage of voters in a few states and would have been able to actually get things done. Uncommitted was an opportunity for the wider progressive community to force the DNC to give them something better, and what did they do instead? “It’s too late” and “hold your nose and vote for her”. God maybe wake up before you get thrown into a concentration camp?
As the economy burns, your rights are stripped away, and Palestine is bulldozed to the ground to make room for Trump resorts, I’m sure you’ll be able to sleep soundly while feeling like you kept your moral high-ground.
Unfortunately progressives are a very small percentage of the electorate and have proven time and time again they aren’t going to show up to vote. In fact progressives so rarely show up that they’ve effectively removed themselves as members of the electorate.
“But it’s borrrrrrring when it’s not an election! What, you want me to show up to vote in the primaries too? What are you, some kinda fascist make me vote guy?”
Primaries. Where party leadership fought tooth and nail to keep challengers off the ballot and eventually just said “fuck it” and gave us who they wanted anyway.
And now they’re whining about neutrality because David Hogg wants to primary republican-lite incumbents in deep blue seats. “Vote in the primaries! Not like that!”
You make the choice based on the cards you’re dealt, not the ones you wished you have. Beyond the election though, because you have more time, you try to change the game. People have it ass backwards - trying to change the game during the election, then sit out the tenure whining about the raw deal they have.
Some people did try to change the game; anti-genocide protests had been going on since October and Uncommitted got going nine months before the election. Both were dismissed by basically the whole country.
Dems fought harder against those protesting a genocide than trump
You think nine months before an election is enough time to change a massive establishment like the DNC? Presidential campaigns take years of planning before candidates even announce their running.
You think a small percentage of voters in a few states whose only message is “Don’t vote for Biden” is the kind of action we need to “change the game”? If this is the kind of action lemmy progressives expect to take and make meaningful strides towards progress it’s absolutely no surprise nothing actually gets done. Maybe do something useful besides spreading fasicts voter suppression talking points and maybe start now instead of February 2028.
No, but it’s certainly enough time to force their hand. They kept saying it was too late for Biden to step down and then, surprise surprise, he fucking stepped down four months before the election.
Setting aside your obvious misrepresentation of the Uncommitted Movement, yeah so what the fuck did you want them to do? The genocide certainly didn’t care about the American electoral cycle. Maybe if people like you supported them they wouldn’t be a small percentage of voters in a few states and would have been able to actually get things done. Uncommitted was an opportunity for the wider progressive community to force the DNC to give them something better, and what did they do instead? “It’s too late” and “hold your nose and vote for her”. God maybe wake up before you get thrown into a concentration camp?
As the economy burns, your rights are stripped away, and Palestine is bulldozed to the ground to make room for Trump resorts, I’m sure you’ll be able to sleep soundly while feeling like you kept your moral high-ground.
I… Literally never said anything about a moral high ground. The fuck, at least read what I said before responding.
WOW, OCTOBER?!
YOU MEAN ONE MONTH WASN’T ENOUGH?
You know which October is being referenced here, and it wasn’t the one that immediately preceded the 2024 election.
You appeal to the electorate you have, not the electorate you think should exist.
Yeah, we saw how that worked with Biden.
Unfortunately progressives are a very small percentage of the electorate and have proven time and time again they aren’t going to show up to vote. In fact progressives so rarely show up that they’ve effectively removed themselves as members of the electorate.
It’d be funny seeing centrists try their hardest to forget about the success of Obama and Bernie if it wasn’t so damn infuriating.
“But it’s borrrrrrring when it’s not an election! What, you want me to show up to vote in the primaries too? What are you, some kinda fascist make me vote guy?”
Primaries. Where party leadership fought tooth and nail to keep challengers off the ballot and eventually just said “fuck it” and gave us who they wanted anyway.
And now they’re whining about neutrality because David Hogg wants to primary republican-lite incumbents in deep blue seats. “Vote in the primaries! Not like that!”